And Then The Trades That Are Declined

Postby macnole » Tue Nov 22, 2011 1:27 pm

thats why I dont play 200M.

Seems a case of "hoarding" of pitching and of middle infielders.

Where you stand really depends on where you sit.

It's all part of the game.
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Postby Salty » Tue Nov 22, 2011 1:48 pm

I dont think the issue is simply hoarding though-

Because it makes sense to hoard talent if it helps you win.

Why hoard talent when your team isn't likely to win?
...or when you have a team thats already really really doing awful and you have extra talent?
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Postby Mr Baseball World » Tue Nov 22, 2011 1:54 pm

Is it safe to assume this league started last night?
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Postby Salty » Tue Nov 22, 2011 1:58 pm

Nope,
starts next Monday.
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Postby Mr Baseball World » Tue Nov 22, 2011 2:02 pm

So he still has a week to make a deal??????? Makes sense to take your time and try to get yourself a deal outside your division then.
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Postby Salty » Tue Nov 22, 2011 2:22 pm

[quote:cb6925e772="Mr. Baseball World"]So he still has a week to make a deal??????? Makes sense to take your time and try to get yourself a deal outside your division then.[/quote:cb6925e772]

If only that were the case...but in order to do that one would have to employ some sort of new fangled carrier pigeon which could carry a piece of paper to let other managers know that you might be interested in working/chatting with them.

Its kind of like going to best buy with cash trying to buy a Flat Screen, but when you ask questions the salesman only shakes his head 'no'.
So Finally you go up to the counter, place the TV you want on it and can't find the cashier.
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Postby Valen » Tue Nov 22, 2011 4:02 pm

Funny you should use best buy example.

I went there over the weekend to check out some camcorders they had in the paper. Salesman walked up behind me and said can I help you? Before I could respond he said guess not and walked off.

I guessed I was in the wrong store. :lol:
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Postby The Last Druid » Tue Nov 22, 2011 4:51 pm

I think one shouldn't overlook the fact that both managers are in the same division. By helping Nev he hurts himself directly. I agree with Salt though that a written note deserves a reply.
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Postby nevdully's » Tue Nov 22, 2011 6:35 pm

[quote:d050e7ac3c]By helping Nev he hurts himself directly.[/quote:d050e7ac3c]

Why doesn't the reverse hold true?

And what if he helps himself more?????

I always focus on my team first. (jmo)
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Postby gkhd11a » Tue Nov 22, 2011 9:15 pm

From a runs standpoint in a divisional competition, which is all that matters, does it actually make sense to accept the deal?

What does accepting Alexander do for our unknown protagonist? Lower the ERA of one starting pitcher about 1.00. Assuming 270 innings that results in 30 runs saved.

The loss of Wells, who leads all shortstops in runs created at 122 in 200 million leagues per Diamond dope or .75 runs per game will I assume be replaced with a player around 61 or so RC per game so the difference will be .37 in every game he plays. Estimate 9 games for Wagner and 9 games for Hack as DH and you have 7 runs lost minimum resulting in an expected net improvement to the team of 23 runs. A good trade, but certainly not great. This is a conservative estimate as any possible pinch hitting lost as well is not included.

Now take the champion's side I estimate a loss of .6 off his ERA from Alexander's departure as he already has better studs to still pitch resulting in 18 runs more given up by his pitchers. The arrival of Wells will result in an estimated 57 more runs of offense for his team for the shortstop improvement, netting a total improvement of 34 runs.

The 11 run difference created by the trade translates to a 2 game expected advantage. As I would feel no need to make my biggest threat better I would not accept the trade either.
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