XYZ ASAP AFL-CIO AARP and SCUBA
and the man from U.N.C.L.E.
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by andycummings65 » Fri Dec 09, 2011 4:27 pm
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by motherscratcher » Fri Dec 09, 2011 4:48 pm
[quote:1df25cf9c0="andycummings65"]XYZ ASAP AFL-CIO AARP and SCUBA
and the man from U.N.C.L.E.[/quote:1df25cf9c0]
lol
and the man from U.N.C.L.E.[/quote:1df25cf9c0]
lol
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by george barnard » Fri Dec 09, 2011 4:53 pm
I think you forgot MFSB and TSOP.
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by The Last Druid » Fri Dec 09, 2011 5:55 pm
I've never used the team analysis stuff. Bickel was big on that. To me shelling out money to analyze the other teams in the league seems entirely unnecessary and just a waste of money. I just like the ratings for the value component. Having one overall number, to compare players with -- that includes defense -- is useful.
Most times when I make up a team it's done in less than two minutes, without consulting any ratings at all. I create and enter most of my teams when a league gets to 10 or 11 spots filled, so it's generally just a mad dash to fill the league before someone else, like Nev who does the same thing, gets there first. If the league is part of a tourney though or has a lot of tough opponents, I take my time and might spend a half hour making up the team. I spend more time on post waivers maneuvering than anywhere else.
I also make moves at the end of the year once all the remaining games are in your own division. This has often worked spectacularly well, even with the 20% drop penalties.
Most times when I make up a team it's done in less than two minutes, without consulting any ratings at all. I create and enter most of my teams when a league gets to 10 or 11 spots filled, so it's generally just a mad dash to fill the league before someone else, like Nev who does the same thing, gets there first. If the league is part of a tourney though or has a lot of tough opponents, I take my time and might spend a half hour making up the team. I spend more time on post waivers maneuvering than anywhere else.
I also make moves at the end of the year once all the remaining games are in your own division. This has often worked spectacularly well, even with the 20% drop penalties.
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by motherscratcher » Fri Dec 09, 2011 6:25 pm
Doesn't NERP on Diamond Dope take defense into account? Are the Joe the Jet ratings better than that?
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by macnole » Fri Dec 09, 2011 6:27 pm
On Petrosian's last point, I've been the victim of that. Well, have been the victim of the first tactic too.
Sustained competitiveness is not by accident. I think it's obvious from your understanding of the game that the ratings are not required nor to blame for the success you've had across sets, caps, etc.
Sustained competitiveness is not by accident. I think it's obvious from your understanding of the game that the ratings are not required nor to blame for the success you've had across sets, caps, etc.
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by macnole » Fri Dec 09, 2011 6:29 pm
[quote:012e849786="motherscratcher"]Doesn't NERP on Diamond Dope take defense into account? Are the Joe the Jet ratings better than that?[/quote:012e849786]
JTJ ratings are better at value determination vs salary/eligible pool. Think of it as a way of rating the players' value at each position against their peers--that is, accounting for salary.
JTJ ratings are better at value determination vs salary/eligible pool. Think of it as a way of rating the players' value at each position against their peers--that is, accounting for salary.
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by ADRIANGABRIEL » Fri Dec 09, 2011 6:49 pm
NERP does not include defense. However, DeanTSC has a [url=http://www.mfooz.com/bblog/wp-content/uploads/offense-vs-defense.pdf]reference[/url] that gives the NERP for defensive ratings.
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by motherscratcher » Fri Dec 09, 2011 7:30 pm
[quote:405af4688c="agabriel"]NERP does not include defense. However, DeanTSC has a [url=http://www.mfooz.com/bblog/wp-content/uploads/offense-vs-defense.pdf]reference[/url] that gives the NERP for defensive ratings.[/quote:405af4688c]
I read that some months ago. I could use a refresher course.
[quote:405af4688c]To get the player’s total value, subtract the fielding rating off this chart from the offensive NERP:[/quote:405af4688c]
Somehow I'd missed this (an important part, don't you think?) and thought that the defense was already incoporated in the DD NERP value. Well...this changes things.
I read that some months ago. I could use a refresher course.
[quote:405af4688c]To get the player’s total value, subtract the fielding rating off this chart from the offensive NERP:[/quote:405af4688c]
Somehow I'd missed this (an important part, don't you think?) and thought that the defense was already incoporated in the DD NERP value. Well...this changes things.
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by PJ Axelsson » Fri Dec 09, 2011 8:05 pm
I find it hard to say I have a problem with Joe the Jet or his rankings, part of me would love to see them, but I just love doing my own research.
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