Adding (poached) ballparks...

Adding (poached) ballparks...

Postby bernieh » Thu Dec 22, 2011 3:40 pm

The idea of adding a few ballparks to ATG that we can "poach" from other player sets has been brought up. I can certainly add a few with an upcoming batch of new cards, but let's go over a few things first.

- First, obviously, which parks? Our available choices come from fewer sources than the player cards do, since the '70s and '80s games have mutant, decade-averaged parks, and FantaSim doesn't have parks at all, so we're left with [url=http://fantasygames.sportingnews.com/baseball/stratomatic/1969/draft/draft_ballpark.html]1969[/url], [url=http://fantasygames.sportingnews.com/baseball/stratomatic/2001/draft/draft_ballpark.html]2001[/url], [url=http://fantasygames.sportingnews.com/baseball/stratomatic/2002/draft/draft_ballpark.html]2002[/url], [url=http://fantasygames.sportingnews.com/baseball/stratomatic/2003/draft/draft_ballpark.html]2003[/url], [url=http://fantasygames.sportingnews.com/baseball/stratomatic/2005/draft/draft_ballpark.html]2004[/url], [url=http://fantasygames.sportingnews.com/baseball/stratomatic/2006/draft/draft_ballpark.html]2005[/url], [url=http://fantasygames.sportingnews.com/baseball/stratomatic/2007/about/ballparks.html]2006[/url]... and from the central site: [url=http://fantasygames.sportingnews.com/stratomatic/about/ballparks.html?pool_id=2010]2007-2010, 1986, 1999, Back to the '90s[/url] (use the pulldown to switch between sets).

I think about 5 or so parks from this selection would be a good number to add. Let's be sure there's a good reason to add them, i.e. there aren't already a lot of similar parks in ATG. One specific request I've received recently from The Rabid Wolverines is Wrigley '86.

- There was [url=http://forums.sportingnews.com/viewtopic.php?t=627080]a short thread posted a few months ago[/url] where the idea of adding new parks was discussed, and in it I noticed there were 2 or 3 of you who were not totally in favor of it. I didn't see reasons given beyond "I think there are enough parks already", but if there are more compelling arguments, I'm listening, as always. Otherwise it does appear that the majority of you are in favor of these minor additions.

- We won't be exploring fully customizable "designer parks" at this time because that's just a bit too radical for now.
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Postby 216 Stitches » Thu Dec 22, 2011 4:09 pm

Seems like park issues are less emotional and more practical
than player decisions. I would expect less negative feedback,
but you never know !!!

Here are some "thoughts":

Kaufaman '09 19 15 3 3 For the small ball lovers
Chase '07 13 13 13 13 For those lucky neutralists in us
AT&T '10 10 10 5 10 Kind of a right-handed Dunn '20. Only kind of
Miller Park '10 6 3 16 8 Because, well, its lefty kind of
AT&T '07 11 11 1 4 Blatent selfish reasons. Cause I would put
together teams that would play here.
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Postby Mr Baseball World » Thu Dec 22, 2011 4:34 pm

Skydome '93 9 10 6 18 ?????
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Postby supertyphoon » Thu Dec 22, 2011 4:40 pm

The five ballparks seem rather obvious, how about the ones opened since 2005:

(New) Busch Stadium -2008
(New) Yankee Stadium -2009
Citi Field - 2009
Nationals Park -2009
Target Field -2010
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Postby WeatherNut » Thu Dec 22, 2011 4:51 pm

How about Jarry Park 1969, 16 16 14 14? We don't have Jarry Park at all. It was a fun park.

I also like RFV's choices, too.

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Postby Valen » Thu Dec 22, 2011 5:06 pm

It would seem to me the important thing on adding parks is not that we do not have the specific park but rather that the park's ratings provide something unique or allow for some new strategy.
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Postby hackra » Thu Dec 22, 2011 5:46 pm

Coors 1995 (19,19,19,19) - because pitchers need abuse

Astrodome 1997 (2,2,2,2) - if Petco is gone, I want the extra HR/single spread evenly

Petco 2009 (1,1,1,3) - because I like it

Kaufmann 2009 (19,15,3,3) - Because I like this one too

8-)
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Postby Salty » Thu Dec 22, 2011 6:28 pm

Cool-
Im glad this idea didnt die. Unfortunately I didnt see exactly what I was looking for, no ones fault on that-
but here are the ones that Id like and might use. (ill add a couple more when I get another few mins)
Si L-R Hr L-R

*07 PNC 17 12 7 1

*04 Petco 7 1 1 1
*01 Pac 1 5 1 1

*08 Nationals 15 6 4 8

One of these:
99 Fenway 17 12 2 7
02 Fenway 14 14 1 5
03 fenway 15 15 1 7

One of these 4:
08 Fenway 19 16 2 5
10 Kauffman 18 12 2 5
96 Oakland 14 9 2 8
99 Olympic 13 7 2 5

and...

10 Busch 8 8 6 3
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Postby Salty » Fri Dec 23, 2011 11:36 am

...also, B- if you can find a park that looks like this:
(there seems to be a dearth of lefty HR right singles leaners)
SI L-R HR L-R

1-10/11-20 5-7/1-2
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Postby dukie98 » Sun Jan 08, 2012 10:54 pm

Here are a few that caught my eye-- in general, I tried to select parks that have a distinct slant, but not overwhelmingly so-- it makes for more interesting strategy from a team-building standpoint. In general, most of these slant toward smallball and pitching:

2001 Comerica 1B- 16 / 5 HR- 2/1
2002 Tropicana 1B - 7/ 10 HR 9/6
2003 Pac Bell 1B - 5/14 HR 1/1
2004 Petco 1B - 7/1 HR 1/1
2004 Kaufman 1B 6/12 HR 2/2
2006 PNC 1B 9/ 15 HR 6/3
2007 PNC 1B 17/12 HR 7/1
2009 Kaufman 1B 19/15 HR 3/3
2010 Safeco 1B 5/5 HR 7/2
2010 Target 1B 17/11 HR 1/1
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