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Postby The Last Druid » Mon Jan 02, 2012 11:32 pm

Not through legislation, or in today's world, executive order. The first amendment or what's left of it anyway, is too important. But you could still impose social sanctions. Ironically education might be the best solution, but the system we now have is what produced this sort of slogan in the first place!

As far as the videos being a stretch -- yeah, in a sense. But without the mindset implicit in the slogan, it might be harder to get people to sign up to kill other people. But as U.S. Marine Corp Major General Butler, the only Marine ever to win two Congressional Medals of Honor and a Brevet Medal, wrote in 1935 (!):

"I spent 33 years and four months in active military service and during that period I spent most of my time as a high class muscle man for Big Business, for Wall Street and the bankers. In short, I was a racketeer, a gangster for capitalism. I helped make Mexico and especially Tampico safe for American oil interests in 1914. I helped make Haiti and Cuba a decent place for the National City Bank boys to collect revenues in. I helped in the raping of half a dozen Central American republics for the benefit of Wall Street. I helped purify Nicaragua for the International Banking House of Brown Brothers in 1902-1912. I brought light to the Dominican Republic for the American sugar interests in 1916. I helped make Honduras right for the American fruit companies in 1903. In China in 1927 I helped see to it that Standard Oil went on its way unmolested. Looking back on it, I might have given Al Capone a few hints. The best he could do was to operate his racket in three districts. I operated on three continents."

Pretty much the same points made in the second video three and a half decades later. Interesting that our govt. still uses the military for the same purposes, they've just gotten better at selling it. Now we are exporting "freedom and democracy" at the same time that those concepts are disappearing rapidly in our "homeland."
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Postby gkhd11a » Tue Jan 03, 2012 7:26 am

[url]http://www.runnerspace.com/eprofile.php?event_id=169&do=videos&video_id=6331[/url]

Here is a video of people actually exclaiming their slogan as they run, not a very dangerous looking bunch! The stretch of this that is going on is unbelievable.
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Postby PotKettleBlack » Tue Jan 03, 2012 11:30 am

[quote:03247c94b6="gkhd11a"][url]http://www.runnerspace.com/eprofile.php?event_id=169&do=videos&video_id=6331[/url]

Here is a video of people actually exclaiming their slogan as they run, not a very dangerous looking bunch! The stretch of this that is going on is unbelievable.[/quote:03247c94b6]

Dangerous looking != dangerous.
Therefore: Not very dangerous looking != not dangerous.

The skinny nerd you picked on in junior high might be the one with the hot girlfriend at prom. He might also be the one who goes to gun shows, surfs sites on bomb making, or is motivated to learn krav maga.
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Postby macnole » Tue Jan 03, 2012 1:33 pm

Truth is, nerds are scary. Maybe even dangerous.
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Postby gkhd11a » Tue Jan 03, 2012 4:01 pm

[quote:5d066098d6="PotKettleBlack"][quote:5d066098d6="gkhd11a"][url]http://www.runnerspace.com/eprofile.php?event_id=169&do=videos&video_id=6331[/url]

Here is a video of people actually exclaiming their slogan as they run, not a very dangerous looking bunch! The stretch of this that is going on is unbelievable.[/quote:5d066098d6]

Dangerous looking != dangerous.
Therefore: Not very dangerous looking != not dangerous.

The skinny nerd you picked on in junior high might be the one with the hot girlfriend at prom. He might also be the one who goes to gun shows, surfs sites on bomb making, or is motivated to learn krav maga.[/quote:5d066098d6]

I have never picked or bullied anyone despite your assertion upon me that I did so in junior high.

The result you infer as justified by prior action is also reflected in the earliest recorded writings, to one of the earliest great travelers in literary history, Cain. Cain felt slighted by God because God favored Able and did not look as favorably upon Cain. Apparently God preferred the gift from a shepherd (Able) over a gift from a farmer (Cain) and Cain's belief that Able deserved death due to the poor way he was treated by God was met with the realization from God that he was responsible for his own actions and was banished to wander the rest of his life aimlessly with a mark upon his body. The same amount of mercy should be shown to anyone relevant in your example, whether the bullier or the killer. Each person is responsible for his own actions, a little easier to enforce with the powers of God and wearing a shirt with a slogan is not bullying. Nor is it the Mark of Cain.

To continue to equate the wearing of a t-shirt to justification of mass murder concerns me, for from implementation of this logic a crafty leader could ban any activity he/she did not want by using the logic that the banned action actually caused the upsetting the feelings of someone potentially dangerous and might lead to murder; therefore the action being enforced is actually a prevention of murder and therefore warranted.
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