Roster Construct Ideas

[hackra]

my roster for east #4
poor fielding, [b:5f938e7d7b]great[/b:5f938e7d7b] hitting, poor (=little spent on) pitching

lineup-

c - Babe Phelps 2.37 4(+2)e7
1b - Ruth 15.10 4e11
2b - Tubby Scales 6.46 3e27
3b - Foxx 13.16 4e22 (bullet proof Ruth, so Foxx stays at 3b)
ss - Luke Appling 7.52 2e32
Lf - Kiner 10.94 4(+1)e7
Cf - Hack Wilson 9.38 3(0)e12
Rf - Ted Williams 11.83 3(-1)e11

subtotal = $76.76


c2 - Frankie Pytlak 0.82 3(0)e4
2b - Jorge Orta 0.55 4e44
cf - Ping Bodie 0.50 4(0)e4
3b - Eddie Foster 0.59 4e31
of - Tommy Davis 0.52 4(+2)e6
of - George Burns 0.77 4(-1)e8
ss - Dick Groat 0.53 3e41

backup subtotal = $4.48

pitching staff for this group
Drysedale 4.99 2e43 8NR
Ray Caldwell 3.25 3e13 5WL
Coombs 1.97 4e21 5NS
Dizzy Trout 2.39 2e51 7NR
Guy Morton 0.50 5e42 3WR

SP subtotal = $13.10

Gary Bell 1.25 4e27 6NR
Bill Lee 1.22 2e27 6NL
Ed Head 1.10 2e36 5WR
Dummy Taylor 1.07 2e34 4WR
Clarence Mitchell 0.95 2e42 8NL

RP subtotal = $5.59

Total = $99.93 :!: 8-)

[color=red:5f938e7d7b][b:5f938e7d7b]scratch that edit idea... :oops: [/b:5f938e7d7b][/color:5f938e7d7b] :mrgreen:

[hackra]

EAST - Fielding test

1) Great fielding (pitchers included), great pitching, poor hitting, extreme pitchers park

2) Poor fielding (pitchers included), great pitching, good hitting, extreme hitters park.

3) Great fielding (pitchers included), poor pitching, good hitting, extreme hitters park.

4) --- hackra


CENTRAL - Platoon test

1) --- PotKettleBlack

2) Hitters much better vs opposite arm, Pitchers much better vs. opposite arm, pitchers park.

3) Hitters much better vs same arm, Pitchers much better vs. opposite arm, pitchers park.

4) Hitters much better vs same arm, Pitchers much better vs. same arm, pitchers park.


WEST - Clutch test

1) --- nexrad

2) --- royalKC

3) All hitters have zero or positive clutch, great hitting pitchers, hitters park.

4) --- WeatherNut

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I'll try to post names on two or more rosters - Sambito, J Jackson, Gardner and/or Baker.

[supertyphoon]

hackra - except for a 2 range at SS it looks good to me, consider it done.

The minimum-error roster you proposed for East #1 is available for anyone who wants to use/tweak it.

WeatherNut - I believe the rosters you submitted for West #3 and West #4 are both positive clutch. Would you be willing to submit one for zero or neg clutch / poor hitting pitchers?

I am working on rosters to submit for Central #3 and #4 tonight.

[hackra]

[quote:8b619fa461="nexrad"]hackra - except for a 2 range at SS it looks good to me, consider it done.

The minimum-error roster you proposed for East #1 is available for anyone who wants to use/tweak it.

WeatherNut - I believe the rosters you submitted for West #3 and West #4 are both positive clutch. Do you want to submit one for neg clutch/poor hitting pitchers?

I am working on rosters to submit for Central #3 and #4 tonight.[/quote:8b619fa461]

[color=red:8b619fa461]Great! Too late to make a tweak, but considered dropping Kiner for Frank Thomas and Drop a backup for the extra $0.50 but it would move Babe Ruth to OF and make the OF defense too good for this theme[/color:8b619fa461] :oops: :roll:

I will look to put together some Central #3 and/or#4 squads also and perhaps PM them to nexrad tomorrow just for fun and comparison.

8-)

[supertyphoon]

What constitutes "poor fielding" in SOM depends on how much you value defense on your teams, and the pain threshold you're willing to accept as a trade-off between scoring / preventing runs.

That being said, my personal definition of a "poor fielding" team would probably be 4 range at primary position 1B, 3B, LF and RF. 3 or 4 range at primary position C, 2B, SS and CF. Zero or positive throwing arms and at least 5 errors for C and OFs. At least 20-30 errors at 2B, 3B and SS.

Is Ruth or Williams a "poor fielder" at 3(-1)e 8 or 11 in LF and RF? I wouldn't hesitate to use either of them in LF or RF, but some may. All I'm saying is there are a lot of better choices for this type of team, such as Kiner 4(+1)e7 at LF.

[PotKettleBlack]

Given the difficulty of reverse platoon rosters, could we allow those two teams some accommodation that would not compromise the exercise?

Something like 1 or 2 players rated E instead of reverse platooned?

[hackra]

should I plan to modify the poor fielding great hitting squad above to get a 3+ range shortstop or leave it alone?

I could go with the 5.25 Arky Vaughn 3e29 instead of Appling

it would leave $2.34 on the table to ?upgrade pitching?

I'm thinking if so it would be to trade Dizzy Trout out for a $4.73 +/- pitcher ....improving a bit on the poor pitching. :?

:?:

[supertyphoon]

[quote:149fd7eed7="hackra"]should I plan to modify the poor fielding great hitting squad above to get a 3+ range shortstop or leave it alone?

I could go with the 5.25 Arky Vaughn 3e29 instead of Appling

it would leave $2.34 on the table to ?upgrade pitching?

I'm thinking if so it would be to trade Dizzy Trout out for a $4.73 +/- pitcher ....improving a bit on the poor pitching. :?

:?:[/quote:149fd7eed7]

I think Vaughan is a better choice at SS.

[url=http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=4&ved=0CDYQFjAD&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mfooz.com%2Fbblog%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2Foffense-vs-defense.pdf&ei=BwwGT_aUDpKttge42OWoDQ&usg=AFQjCNH446_8S2JL-sJh9mqRbG8CMWc-xA&sig2=Otz074AUsQKThtKHtF07MQ]Offense vs Defense Table[/url]

From this PDF file I refer to, it has Appling 2e32 hurting the defense by 3.0 runs, and Vaughan's 3e29 damage rated at 6.5 runs.

Looking at that table, it appears somewhere around 2.0 to 3.0 at each position is where a player's defense starts to hurt the team.

[hackra]

my new roster for east #4
poor fielding, [b:c2109c7420]great[/b:c2109c7420] hitting, poor (=little spent on) pitching

lineup-

c - Babe Phelps 2.37 4(+2)e7
1b - Babe Ruth 15.10 4e11
2b - Tubby Scales 6.46 3e27
3b - Foxx 13.16 4e22
ss - Arky Vaughn 5.25 3e29
Lf - Kiner 10.94 4(+1)e7
Cf - Hack Wilson 9.38 3(0)e12
Rf - Ted Williams 11.83 3(-1)e11

subtotal = $74.79


c2 - Frankie Pytlak 0.82 3(0)e4
2b - Jorge Orta 0.55 4e44
cf - Ping Bodie 0.50 4(0)e4
3b - Eddie Foster 0.59 4e31
of - Tommy Davis 0.52 4(+2)e6
of - Jose Cardenal 0.52 4(+2)e10
ss - Dick Groat 0.53 3e41

backup subtotal = $4.03

pitching staff for this group
Ewell Blackwell 5.45 4e33 5NR
Drysedale 4.99 2e43 8NR
Ray Caldwell 3.25 3e13 5WL
Coombs 1.97 4e21 5NS
Guy Morton 0.50 5e42 3WR

SP subtotal = $16.16

Gary Bell 1.25 4e27 6NR
Dummy Taylor 1.07 2e34 4WR
Clarence Mitchell 0.95 2e42 8NL
Vern Kennedy 0.90 2e46 3WL
Allen Russell 0.85 2e50 5WS

RP subtotal = $5.02

Total = $100.00 :!:

:D

[WeatherNut]

[quote:92fa696f89]WeatherNut - I believe the rosters you submitted for West #3 and West #4 are both positive clutch. Would you be willing to submit one for zero or neg clutch / poor hitting pitchers? [/quote:92fa696f89]

I can get to it on Saturday.

WN