ATG new cards batch #5 debuts 1/30/12

[BDWard]

I'm glad Ventura got a card, as he is a personal favorite. His card seems a little weak for the numbers he put up, but I guess it's about right for occurring in the midst of the steroid era.

A left handed hitting third baseman I'd really like to see is Darrell Evans 1973. Here's his numbers:

.281 41 104 .403 .556

He had over 700 plate appearances that year, so he should be pretty much bullet proof. He should be about a 3e26, which isn't too bad. He may also be rated for 1B as well. Oddly, despite his great numbers, Evans wasn't requested elsewhere in the player poach thread.

I'd also like to see Evans' teammate, 1973 Davey Johnson, get an ATG6 card. Johnson is mentioned a couple of times on the first page of the card poach request. Although his defense slipped a little from previous years, Johnson put up great power numbers for a second baseman:

.270 43 99 .370 .546

Prior to 1973, Johnson was almost always rated a 2 at 2B, although he won gold gloves in 1969, 1970 and 1971. However, in 1973 he made 30 errors at 2B in 156 games, and he was downgraded to a 3 that year (Strato had no separate "e" rating back then), despite career highs in total chances, PO, Assists and DPs. How about a 2e31 for Johnson for 1973?

Johnson had a near Brady Anderson type increase in HRs in 1973, as his previous career high was just 18, and he usually averaged around 10 HRs previously. The next year, 1974, he hit just 15 HRs and in 4 seasons of mostly part time play thereafter he hit just 16 more HRs. 1973 was Johnson's first year for the Braves and is a good example of what playing in the "launching pad" in Atlanta could do for a player's power numbers.

[bernieh]

Whenever I get the prices back from Bbrool, I should be able to turn it around and put the new cards in the next business day. I've done all the prep work on my end.

If he somehow sends me the prices before the end of business hours today, then I can post the cards tomorrow. But that's highly unlikely, as he usually only has any free time late at night. Also, I know that he's been busy. So we're looking at next week at least.

Hopefully I made it clear enough that I'm not promising dates until I get a good cache of prices to work from - the new circumstances of managing all the "poach" requests from the community are calling for a lot more work and headaches for me, and a big effort from Bbrool. Hopefully he'll be able to price all the extra requests I gave him (on top of the ones for this pending batch) so that I'll be set for a while going forward.

[Salty]

Thanks for the update...

and BBrool, thanks for working hard on this stuff.



Salt

[Munich_Man]

Having been involved in the pricing process in the past for different ATG iterations, I can assure that bBrool has put an incredible amount of effort in developing the model and certainly deserves a huge amount of credit for his hard work.

Beers for Bbrool! (_)?(_)?(_)?(_)?(_)?(_)?(_)ß

[Outta Leftfield]

[quote:441c5edc58="BDWard"]

A left handed hitting third baseman I'd really like to see is Darrell Evans 1973. Here's his numbers:

.281 41 104 .403 .556
[/quote:441c5edc58]

This would be cool. I'm all for another LHB power option at 3B

[quote:441c5edc58]
I'd also like to see Evans' teammate, 1973 Davey Johnson, get an ATG6 card. Johnson is mentioned a couple of times on the first page of the card poach request. Although his defense slipped a little from previous years, Johnson put up great power numbers for a second baseman:

.270 43 99 .370 .546

Johnson had a near Brady Anderson type increase in HRs in 1973, as his previous career high was just 18, and he usually averaged around 10 HRs previously. The next year, 1974, he hit just 15 HRs and in 4 seasons of mostly part time play thereafter he hit just 16 more HRs. 1973 was Johnson's first year for the Braves and is a good example of what playing in the "launching pad" in Atlanta could do for a player's power numbers.[/quote:441c5edc58]

I can fill in a little background on Davey Johnson in Atlanta. In one of Earl Weaver's autobiographies, Earl says that Johnson had been doing a lot of body-building prior to the 1972 (or 73) season. Earl said that although this made Johnson stronger, it also made him more sluggish fielding at 2B. So Earl shipped him off to Atlanta. There, Johnson's new muscles plus the Fulton County launch pad helped him to hit 43 home runs, but he also went down hill with the glove.

Davey had only one more full season, in 1974. He later played in Japan and never reached the same level in MLB.

[Sheikyerboudi]

The '73 Braves were the 1st team to have three 40 HR guys. Aaron was injured that season but still hit 40 in addition to Evans & Johnson.

-FZL

[BDWard]

Johnson and Aaron never came close to hitting 40 HRs in a season again, while Evans did it just once more, in 1985, twelve years later, which has got to be a record for the longest time between 40 HR seasons.

[bernieh]

Here's today's teasers!

This will be it 'til next week. First of all, I'm running out of these and I'd like to spread 'em out while we wait for this batch to come out of the oven, and second, I'm gonna take tomorrow to lock myself in the dungeon and desperately code away on this increasingly nerve-wracking site rebuild.

Enjoy!

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[size=9:f73da8caf4](For those who can't see the card images for some reason, they're supposed to be: Nomar Garciaparra 2000, Doc White 1906)[/size:f73da8caf4]

[PotKettleBlack]

Nomah 2000: .372/.434/.599... 143 games, 529 AB + 61BB = 15 game injury (which should keep the card reasonably priced).

[cristano1]

bbrool-
does your pricing model add a random component into the price? for example, say the new arky vaughan should be priced at 12M. is that the final price, or do you simulate a random price with 12M as the mean? if all cards are perfectly priced, then the game sucks, and everyone should finish 81-81. clearly, my atg6 winning percentage shows that not all cards are perfectly priced. i am wondering if this variance is built in on purpose (which it absolutely should be)?

i would think it is important to keep some randomness in pricing, in turn creating the undervalued player cards, which in turn makes the game a lot more fun. for example, take all 54 atg6 batters over 10M. 2 of them are underpriced by more than 20%, and 5 more of them by more than 15%. is this on purpose, or is it just a result of the mathematics of the pricing model?