[quote:66532760d3]Finally, has anyone noticed that there's a hole in the card set when it comes to bargain left handed hitting corner OFers, particularly in RF, who are priced in the $4-$5.75 mil range, can play full time and are capable of batting .260-.280, with 30 HR & 100 RBI and can occasionally make a defensive play? When I build my teams at caps of $100 mil or less for righty hitters' parks, there are some decent righty hitters who fit the bill like Del Ennis, Sid Gordon, Dusty Baker, Raul Mondesi and Wally Berger. Even Jim Rice and the newly added George Bell can play corner OF and give good bang for the buck. But when building a team for lefty hitters' park and it comes to bargain full time lefty hitting corner OFers, the cupboard is bare. There are Baines, Callison, Parker and Walker, but they are not budget friendly, as they are all priced at $6 mil+. Reggie Jackson and Kirk Gibson give good bang for the buck, but are better suited for DH because of their defensive limitations. That leaves only Stan Spence, who is rarely used, and for good reason. I know some of you might consider Strawberry, but he's strictly a platoon player with his $5.78 mil card. [/quote:66532760d3]
IMHO, I think a player like you describe cannot be had. If he was able to do what you said, they're going to be 6+ mil. Left handed batters that don't have to be platooned and can produce those numbers are coveted and pricey.
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by supertyphoon » Tue Jan 31, 2012 6:12 pm
[quote:ebacca7947="WeatherNut"][quote:ebacca7947]Finally, has anyone noticed that there's a hole in the card set when it comes to bargain left handed hitting corner OFers, particularly in RF, who are priced in the $4-$5.75 mil range, can play full time and are capable of batting .260-.280, with 30 HR & 100 RBI and can occasionally make a defensive play? When I build my teams at caps of $100 mil or less for righty hitters' parks, there are some decent righty hitters who fit the bill like Del Ennis, Sid Gordon, Dusty Baker, Raul Mondesi and Wally Berger. Even Jim Rice and the newly added George Bell can play corner OF and give good bang for the buck. But when building a team for lefty hitters' park and it comes to bargain full time lefty hitting corner OFers, the cupboard is bare. There are Baines, Callison, Parker and Walker, but they are not budget friendly, as they are all priced at $6 mil+. Reggie Jackson and Kirk Gibson give good bang for the buck, but are better suited for DH because of their defensive limitations. That leaves only Stan Spence, who is rarely used, and for good reason. I know some of you might consider Strawberry, but he's strictly a platoon player with his $5.78 mil card. [/quote:ebacca7947]
IMHO, I think a player like you describe cannot be had. If he was able to do what you said, they're going to be 6+ mil. Left handed batters that don't have to be platooned and can produce those numbers are coveted and pricey.
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I don't know how his defense rates, but 1922 Cy Williams from FantaSim would probably be less than $7 million in the 5.5 to 6.5 million range.
[quote:ebacca7947]Since Cy was a prodigious home run hitter, an outfielder with good range, and a speedy player when young, one might compare him to Ken Griffey Jr.. Pictures of him show a tall player with the same kind of build as Griffey and Ted Williams.
He was the 1st player in National League history to hit 200 Home Runs
Cy Williams is said to rank as one of the four most prolific sluggers in baseball history based on the number of homers hit vs. the league average.
Although Cy Williams benefitted from hitting many of his home runs in cozy Baker Bowl in Philadelphia, a study by Richard Lederer concluded that Cy would still rank as a great home run hitter even if he had played in a more typical stadium.
Managers used a "Ted Williams" shift in the outfield for him, many years before it was ever used for Ted Williams[/quote:ebacca7947]
IMHO, I think a player like you describe cannot be had. If he was able to do what you said, they're going to be 6+ mil. Left handed batters that don't have to be platooned and can produce those numbers are coveted and pricey.
WN[/quote:ebacca7947]
I don't know how his defense rates, but 1922 Cy Williams from FantaSim would probably be less than $7 million in the 5.5 to 6.5 million range.
[quote:ebacca7947]Since Cy was a prodigious home run hitter, an outfielder with good range, and a speedy player when young, one might compare him to Ken Griffey Jr.. Pictures of him show a tall player with the same kind of build as Griffey and Ted Williams.
He was the 1st player in National League history to hit 200 Home Runs
Cy Williams is said to rank as one of the four most prolific sluggers in baseball history based on the number of homers hit vs. the league average.
Although Cy Williams benefitted from hitting many of his home runs in cozy Baker Bowl in Philadelphia, a study by Richard Lederer concluded that Cy would still rank as a great home run hitter even if he had played in a more typical stadium.
Managers used a "Ted Williams" shift in the outfield for him, many years before it was ever used for Ted Williams[/quote:ebacca7947]
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by WeatherNut » Tue Jan 31, 2012 6:18 pm
I have the 1922 season. Cy would be a 4 in Right, Center, and Left as about an E7. He has a -2 arm.
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by WeatherNut » Tue Jan 31, 2012 6:23 pm
As a comp for Cy William 1922, I say look at Ken Singleton's 5.3 mil card. Cy's card isn't that good, so it would be under 5.3 mil.
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Sudden Sam
by RickRanger » Thu Feb 02, 2012 2:29 am
1965 Sam McDowell 17-11, 325 K's in 278 IP, 2.18 ERA, 9 HRA, 1.14 WHIP, 5.6 H/9.
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by fraank123 » Tue Feb 07, 2012 12:37 am
Pie Traynor 1930
Mickey Cochrane 1934
George kell 1950 or 1946
Heinie manush 1926
Earl averill 1930 1932 1935 1936
Kiki cuyler 1925
Mickey lolich 1972
John hiller 1973
Dizzy trout 1944
Steve foucalt 1977
Frank howard 1970
Ugueth Urbina 1998
Doug Brocail 1998 1999
Tony Phillips 1993
Bryan Harvey 1991
Steve Howe 1983 1991 1994
Carbo, Bernie 1970
Burke, Tim 1987
DARRELL PORTER 1979
Mickey Cochrane 1934
George kell 1950 or 1946
Heinie manush 1926
Earl averill 1930 1932 1935 1936
Kiki cuyler 1925
Mickey lolich 1972
John hiller 1973
Dizzy trout 1944
Steve foucalt 1977
Frank howard 1970
Ugueth Urbina 1998
Doug Brocail 1998 1999
Tony Phillips 1993
Bryan Harvey 1991
Steve Howe 1983 1991 1994
Carbo, Bernie 1970
Burke, Tim 1987
DARRELL PORTER 1979
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