Just want a quick rules clarification.
A prospect can be promoted at anytime provided there is space on the roster.
So this is my question. I currently plan on making 13 picks in the FA draft. Suppose I get to my 13th pick and I don't care for any of the players left could I then promote one of my prospects instead?
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by Roscodog » Sat Mar 03, 2012 4:02 pm
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Re: Rules Question
by Rant » Mon Mar 05, 2012 11:09 am
[quote:cf13b99a66="Roscodog"]Just want a quick rules clarification.
A prospect can be promoted at anytime provided there is space on the roster.
So this is my question. I currently plan on making 13 picks in the FA draft. Suppose I get to my 13th pick and I don't care for any of the players left could I then promote one of my prospects instead?[/quote:cf13b99a66]
I'm on the road, so without checking the rules, I believe that's how we handled it last year. If I remember there isn't anything specific in the rules that pertains to this, but the interpretation is that you can do as you described.
I would strongly prefer that we not do this as the rule, but the exception. Technically, you should probably draft a player and then drop them after the draft and promote your prospect. I'd rather not have this be a work around for stashing players (e.g., I promote no prospects, keep all my roster, then drop players after the draft to call up prospects).
A prospect can be promoted at anytime provided there is space on the roster.
So this is my question. I currently plan on making 13 picks in the FA draft. Suppose I get to my 13th pick and I don't care for any of the players left could I then promote one of my prospects instead?[/quote:cf13b99a66]
I'm on the road, so without checking the rules, I believe that's how we handled it last year. If I remember there isn't anything specific in the rules that pertains to this, but the interpretation is that you can do as you described.
I would strongly prefer that we not do this as the rule, but the exception. Technically, you should probably draft a player and then drop them after the draft and promote your prospect. I'd rather not have this be a work around for stashing players (e.g., I promote no prospects, keep all my roster, then drop players after the draft to call up prospects).
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Re: Rules Question
by Roscodog » Mon Mar 05, 2012 12:08 pm
[quote:b980f946ba="Rant"][quote:b980f946ba="Roscodog"]Just want a quick rules clarification.
A prospect can be promoted at anytime provided there is space on the roster.
So this is my question. I currently plan on making 13 picks in the FA draft. Suppose I get to my 13th pick and I don't care for any of the players left could I then promote one of my prospects instead?[/quote:b980f946ba]
I'm on the road, so without checking the rules, I believe that's how we handled it last year. If I remember there isn't anything specific in the rules that pertains to this, but the interpretation is that you can do as you described.
I would strongly prefer that we not do this as the rule, but the exception. Technically, you should probably draft a player and then drop them after the draft and promote your prospect. I'd rather not have this be a work around for stashing players (e.g., I promote no prospects, keep all my roster, then drop players after the draft to call up prospects).[/quote:b980f946ba]
Thanks for the reply
A prospect can be promoted at anytime provided there is space on the roster.
So this is my question. I currently plan on making 13 picks in the FA draft. Suppose I get to my 13th pick and I don't care for any of the players left could I then promote one of my prospects instead?[/quote:b980f946ba]
I'm on the road, so without checking the rules, I believe that's how we handled it last year. If I remember there isn't anything specific in the rules that pertains to this, but the interpretation is that you can do as you described.
I would strongly prefer that we not do this as the rule, but the exception. Technically, you should probably draft a player and then drop them after the draft and promote your prospect. I'd rather not have this be a work around for stashing players (e.g., I promote no prospects, keep all my roster, then drop players after the draft to call up prospects).[/quote:b980f946ba]
Thanks for the reply
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Re: Rules Question
by Ninersphan » Mon Mar 05, 2012 12:27 pm
[quote:c31b030425="Rant"][quote:c31b030425="Roscodog"]Just want a quick rules clarification.
A prospect can be promoted at anytime provided there is space on the roster.
So this is my question. I currently plan on making 13 picks in the FA draft. Suppose I get to my 13th pick and I don't care for any of the players left could I then promote one of my prospects instead?[/quote:c31b030425]
I'm on the road, so without checking the rules, I believe that's how we handled it last year. If I remember there isn't anything specific in the rules that pertains to this, but the interpretation is that you can do as you described.
I would strongly prefer that we not do this as the rule, but the exception. Technically, you should probably draft a player and then drop them after the draft and promote your prospect. I'd rather not have this be a work around for stashing players (e.g., I promote no prospects, keep all my roster, then drop players after the draft to call up prospects).[/quote:c31b030425]
Actually I have a problem with what you suggest as well rant, as it blocks a draftable player for the season.
In your example, you draft 15 to bring your roster to 40 then decide after the draft you want to drop the guy you drafted in the 14th round to promote a prospect, you've now essentially blocked the player from the other 11 teams for season 1, when someone might have drafted him in the 15th round.
In my opinion, all promotions should be done prior to the draft starting. Once the draft is finished you only promote a prospect when you open a roster slot via an unbalenced trade until the supplemental draft at mid season. At that point you may then make a drop the allows a prospect to be promoted.
I'll play any way you want, but from a fairness stand point, to me what I describe is the most fair way of doing it, because is doesn't allow for the blocking of players in the draft.
A prospect can be promoted at anytime provided there is space on the roster.
So this is my question. I currently plan on making 13 picks in the FA draft. Suppose I get to my 13th pick and I don't care for any of the players left could I then promote one of my prospects instead?[/quote:c31b030425]
I'm on the road, so without checking the rules, I believe that's how we handled it last year. If I remember there isn't anything specific in the rules that pertains to this, but the interpretation is that you can do as you described.
I would strongly prefer that we not do this as the rule, but the exception. Technically, you should probably draft a player and then drop them after the draft and promote your prospect. I'd rather not have this be a work around for stashing players (e.g., I promote no prospects, keep all my roster, then drop players after the draft to call up prospects).[/quote:c31b030425]
Actually I have a problem with what you suggest as well rant, as it blocks a draftable player for the season.
In your example, you draft 15 to bring your roster to 40 then decide after the draft you want to drop the guy you drafted in the 14th round to promote a prospect, you've now essentially blocked the player from the other 11 teams for season 1, when someone might have drafted him in the 15th round.
In my opinion, all promotions should be done prior to the draft starting. Once the draft is finished you only promote a prospect when you open a roster slot via an unbalenced trade until the supplemental draft at mid season. At that point you may then make a drop the allows a prospect to be promoted.
I'll play any way you want, but from a fairness stand point, to me what I describe is the most fair way of doing it, because is doesn't allow for the blocking of players in the draft.
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by Roscodog » Mon Mar 05, 2012 1:08 pm
Just for the record I'm OK with whatever and don't want to create any problems in the league :D . I was just inquiring as it seemed like something that based on the rules, would be legal if I chose to do so. But if all my promotions have to be made before the draft starts I'm ok with that as well. Obviously it works in the managers favour if they can choose to do so during the draft. It also only works if the player can still be a prospect and not someone who HAS to be promoted.
In a situation where I choose not to make my 13th pick and promoted a prospect instead, it would not block any players from being selected by anyone else, in fact it may open a player up to someone else (unless I had the last pick in the draft). I think this only works in a situation where someone is making more than 10 picks however otherwise it allows you to protect an extra player.
In a way it would be the same as someone making a player for FA pick trade once the draft has started. If I decided not to make my extra drops and keep a roster of 30 I could potentially work out a deal with another manager to make a trade after the draft started thus basically protecting a player (or 2) for him.
As Niners pointed out as well, I don't think we can just drop a player after the draft in order to promote a prospect. It has to be an unbalanced trade or once a drop is made at the SUPP draft.
Can't wait til the cards come out. :wink:
In a situation where I choose not to make my 13th pick and promoted a prospect instead, it would not block any players from being selected by anyone else, in fact it may open a player up to someone else (unless I had the last pick in the draft). I think this only works in a situation where someone is making more than 10 picks however otherwise it allows you to protect an extra player.
In a way it would be the same as someone making a player for FA pick trade once the draft has started. If I decided not to make my extra drops and keep a roster of 30 I could potentially work out a deal with another manager to make a trade after the draft started thus basically protecting a player (or 2) for him.
As Niners pointed out as well, I don't think we can just drop a player after the draft in order to promote a prospect. It has to be an unbalanced trade or once a drop is made at the SUPP draft.
Can't wait til the cards come out. :wink:
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by Roscodog » Wed Mar 07, 2012 10:34 am
Cards come out tomorrow, if I get time I will try to update the available players list after the drops are completed. If not just be sure to look on the drop/promotion thread for other players who are available. Also remember that a player has to have a card to be drafted so you may have to do some minimal research to double check that a player you want has been issued a card (In the standard set, not in the fluke set). Once the draft starts I will do my best to update the available player list as picks are made. Same for the available prospects thread. Once again though you are not limited to the players on the prospect list, I just made it as a "nice to know".
Up to RANT, but if everyone can have there drops done this weekend, maybe we can start to draft Monday. :D
Up to RANT, but if everyone can have there drops done this weekend, maybe we can start to draft Monday. :D
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Prospect Pick
by Roscodog » Wed Mar 07, 2012 4:23 pm
I have a 2nd round prospect pick, 22nd overall, that I would be willing to move. If you're interested make me an offer. FA picks, players, promoted prospects, I'm open to suggestions.
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