tWi$tEd rEaLiTy 2011 - the Great Equalizer!

Important Reminder

Postby The Godfather » Wed Mar 21, 2012 9:15 pm

[quote:5b5fa65354="mbrake"]To speed the draft up, effective pick #53 the following time limits will be imposed:

Picks #53-64 3 hour max or you get skipped
Picks #65-76 2 hour max
Picks #77-112 1 hour max

These times are effective from 9 AM - 10 PM EST. After 10 PM until 9 AM are blocked out for only the person due to select and that person can't be skipped until 9 AM.

If you get skipped, you can jump in at any time and make your pick. Please just skip the owner's missed slot.[/quote:5b5fa65354]
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Postby WJS6768 » Wed Mar 21, 2012 9:24 pm

1. geekor – Pirates - C. Parmelee 1B (Twins)
2. Carlerik - Padres - Napoli C (Rangers)
3. Dr. Publix - Mets - D Ortiz (Red Sox)
4. Delbird - Athletics - M. Morse 1B (Nationals)
5. geekor – Pirates - A Ramirez 3B (Cubs)
6. Carlerik - Padres - Hardy SS (Orioles)
7. Dr. Publix - Mets - B Pill 1B (Giants)
8. Delbird - Athletics - B. LaHair (Cubs)
9. MoFo's of Mayhem - Royals - B League CP (Mariners)
10. ehlekev - Indians - M Garza SP (Cubs)
11. oldmansmith - White Sox - A Jones CF (Orioles)
12. Paul_Long - Blue Jays - Jordan Zimmerman SP (Nationals)
13. Gumby3640 - Dbacks - Michael Pineda SP (Mariners)
14. buzz082308 - Marlins - Matt Downs - (Houston)
15. WJS6768 - Rockies - Felix Hernandez SP (Mariners)
16. Pdhd0522 - Angels - Matt Wieters (Orioles)
17. geekor – Pirates - Scott Baker (Twins)
18. Carlerik - Padres - Markakis RF (Orioles)
19. Dr. Publix - Mets - John Mayberry, jr. cf (Phillies)
20. Delbird - Athletics - Tyler Clippard RP (Nationals)
21. MoFo's of Mayhem - Royals - Wandy Rodriguez SP (Astros)
22. ehlekev - Indians - Reed Johnson OF (Cubs)
23. oldmansmith - White Sox - Jake Fox C (Bal)
24. Paul_Long - Blue Jays - Casper Wells OF (Sea)
25. Gumby3640 - Dbacks - Clint Barmes SS (Houston)
26. buzz082308 - Marlins - Carlos Pena (Chicago Cubs)
27. WJS6768 - Rockies - Allen Craig LF (St. Louis)
28. Pdhd0522 - Angels - K. Youklis (Boston)
29. geekor – Pirates - J Vargas SP (Seattle)
30. Carlerik - Padres - Patton RP (Orioles)
31. Dr. Publix - Mets- W Ramos C (Nats)
32. Delbird - Athletics - Ryan Zimmerman 3B (Nationals)
33. Paul_Long (traded) - Blue Jays - Michael Cuddyer (Twins)
34. ehlekev - Indians - Drew Storen - RP (Nationals)
35. oldmansmith - White Sox - Dustin Ackley - 2B (Mariners)
36. MoFo's of Mayhem (traded) - Royals - Mark Reynolds (Orioles)
37. Gumby3640 - Dbacks - B. Bogusevic - RF (Houston)
38. buzz082308 - Marlins - Brendan Ryan SS (Mariners)
39. WJS6768 - Rockies - Sean Marshall RP (Cubs)
40. Toronto50(trade) - Rays - Nolan Reimold (Orioles)
41. geekor – Pirates - S Castro - SS (Cubs)
42. Carlerik - Padres - Detweiler - SP (Nats)
43. Dr. Publix - Mets - J Johnson rp (orioles)
44. Toronto50(trade) - Rays - Perkins RP (Twins)
45. MoFo's of Mayhem - Royals - Melancon RP (Astros)
46. ehlekev - Indians - Mike Carp (Seattle)
47. oldmansmith - White Sox - Danny Espinosa 2b (nationals)
48. Paul_Long - Blue Jays - Jeff Samardzija RP (Cubs)
49. Gumby3640 - Dbacks - Ryan Mattheus RP (Nationals)
50. buzz082308 - Marlins - Ryan Langerhans OF (Mariners)
51. WJS6768 - Rockies - Anthony Swarzak SP (Twins)
52. Pdhd0522 - Angels - Brett Myers (Houston)
53. geekor - Pirates - Wilhelmsen RP (Mariners)
54. Carlerik - Padres - Barney 2B (Cubs)
55. Dr. Publix - Mets - J Guthrie SP (Orioles)
56. Delbird - Athletics - Robert Andino IF (Orioles)
57. Dr. Publix (traded) Mets - Z Britton SP (Orioles)
58. ehlekev - Indians - Alex Liddi 3B (Mariners)
59. oldmansmith - White Sox - Jimmy Paredes 3b (Astros)
60. mbrake (traded) - Yankees - SP Bud Norris (Astros)
61. Gumby3640 - Dbacks - 3B Chris Davis (Orioles)
62. buzz082308 - Marlins - John Lannan SP - (Nationals)
63. WJS6768 - Rockies - Jayson Werth RF - (Nationals)

[b:547b7cf8ff]64. Pdhd0522 - Angels [/b:547b7cf8ff]

65. Geekor - Pirates
66. Carlerik - Padres
67. Dr Publix - Mets
68. oldmansmith -White Sox (trade from Oakland A's for Pierzynski)
69. MoFo's of Mayhem - Royals
70. ehlekev - Indians
71. oldmansmith - White Sox
72. Paul_Long - Blue Jays
73. Gumby3640 - Dbacks
74. buzz082308 - Marlin
75. WJS6768 - Rockies
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107. Geoff Brookes - Phillies (trade from Oldmansmith)
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112. Mr. Irrelevent
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Postby Dday » Wed Mar 21, 2012 10:11 pm

[quote:d9b83c5c53="WJS6768"]1. geekor – Pirates - C. Parmelee 1B (Twins)
2. Carlerik - Padres - Napoli C (Rangers)
3. Dr. Publix - Mets - D Ortiz (Red Sox)
4. Delbird - Athletics - M. Morse 1B (Nationals)
5. geekor – Pirates - A Ramirez 3B (Cubs)
6. Carlerik - Padres - Hardy SS (Orioles)
7. Dr. Publix - Mets - B Pill 1B (Giants)
8. Delbird - Athletics - B. LaHair (Cubs)
9. MoFo's of Mayhem - Royals - B League CP (Mariners)
10. ehlekev - Indians - M Garza SP (Cubs)
11. oldmansmith - White Sox - A Jones CF (Orioles)
12. Paul_Long - Blue Jays - Jordan Zimmerman SP (Nationals)
13. Gumby3640 - Dbacks - Michael Pineda SP (Mariners)
14. buzz082308 - Marlins - Matt Downs - (Houston)
15. WJS6768 - Rockies - Felix Hernandez SP (Mariners)
16. Pdhd0522 - Angels - Matt Wieters (Orioles)
17. geekor – Pirates - Scott Baker (Twins)
18. Carlerik - Padres - Markakis RF (Orioles)
19. Dr. Publix - Mets - John Mayberry, jr. cf (Phillies)
20. Delbird - Athletics - Tyler Clippard RP (Nationals)
21. MoFo's of Mayhem - Royals - Wandy Rodriguez SP (Astros)
22. ehlekev - Indians - Reed Johnson OF (Cubs)
23. oldmansmith - White Sox - Jake Fox C (Bal)
24. Paul_Long - Blue Jays - Casper Wells OF (Sea)
25. Gumby3640 - Dbacks - Clint Barmes SS (Houston)
26. buzz082308 - Marlins - Carlos Pena (Chicago Cubs)
27. WJS6768 - Rockies - Allen Craig LF (St. Louis)
28. Pdhd0522 - Angels - K. Youklis (Boston)
29. geekor – Pirates - J Vargas SP (Seattle)
30. Carlerik - Padres - Patton RP (Orioles)
31. Dr. Publix - Mets- W Ramos C (Nats)
32. Delbird - Athletics - Ryan Zimmerman 3B (Nationals)
33. Paul_Long (traded) - Blue Jays - Michael Cuddyer (Twins)
34. ehlekev - Indians - Drew Storen - RP (Nationals)
35. oldmansmith - White Sox - Dustin Ackley - 2B (Mariners)
36. MoFo's of Mayhem (traded) - Royals - Mark Reynolds (Orioles)
37. Gumby3640 - Dbacks - B. Bogusevic - RF (Houston)
38. buzz082308 - Marlins - Brendan Ryan SS (Mariners)
39. WJS6768 - Rockies - Sean Marshall RP (Cubs)
40. Toronto50(trade) - Rays - Nolan Reimold (Orioles)
41. geekor – Pirates - S Castro - SS (Cubs)
42. Carlerik - Padres - Detweiler - SP (Nats)
43. Dr. Publix - Mets - J Johnson rp (orioles)
44. Toronto50(trade) - Rays - Perkins RP (Twins)
45. MoFo's of Mayhem - Royals - Melancon RP (Astros)
46. ehlekev - Indians - Mike Carp (Seattle)
47. oldmansmith - White Sox - Danny Espinosa 2b (nationals)
48. Paul_Long - Blue Jays - Jeff Samardzija RP (Cubs)
49. Gumby3640 - Dbacks - Ryan Mattheus RP (Nationals)
50. buzz082308 - Marlins - Ryan Langerhans OF (Mariners)
51. WJS6768 - Rockies - Anthony Swarzak SP (Twins)
52. Pdhd0522 - Angels - Brett Myers (Houston)
53. geekor - Pirates - Wilhelmsen RP (Mariners)
54. Carlerik - Padres - Barney 2B (Cubs)
55. Dr. Publix - Mets - J Guthrie SP (Orioles)
56. Delbird - Athletics - Robert Andino IF (Orioles)
57. Dr. Publix (traded) Mets - Z Britton SP (Orioles)
58. ehlekev - Indians - Alex Liddi 3B (Mariners)
59. oldmansmith - White Sox - Jimmy Paredes 3b (Astros)
60. mbrake (traded) - Yankees - SP Bud Norris (Astros)
61. Gumby3640 - Dbacks - 3B Chris Davis (Orioles)
62. buzz082308 - Marlins - John Lannan SP - (Nationals)
63. WJS6768 - Rockies - Jayson Werth RF - (Nationals)

[b:d9b83c5c53]64. Pdhd0522 - Angels [/b:d9b83c5c53] Joe Mauer (Twins)

65. Geekor - Pirates
66. Carlerik - Padres
67. Dr Publix - Mets
68. oldmansmith -White Sox (trade from Oakland A's for Pierzynski)
69. MoFo's of Mayhem - Royals
70. ehlekev - Indians
71. oldmansmith - White Sox
72. Paul_Long - Blue Jays
73. Gumby3640 - Dbacks
74. buzz082308 - Marlin
75. WJS6768 - Rockies
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Postby Dr.Publix » Thu Mar 22, 2012 5:31 am

toronto50 and mbrake please check your pm's. toronto50, don't announce anything yet.
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Postby The Godfather » Thu Mar 22, 2012 9:10 am

Remember that the clock is 2 hours for this stretch of the draft (picks #65-76). Not sure how far into the clock this pick is.
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Postby carlerik » Thu Mar 22, 2012 9:24 am

I pick after the Pirates. I am making the assumption that I can pick as of 11:00 am EDT. Carl - Padres
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Trade announcement

Postby Dr.Publix » Thu Mar 22, 2012 9:46 am

Mets trade R Dickey, j Guthrie, G Mota, pick 67, pick 79 to Rays for J Hellickson, J Peralta, A Cobb, and J Nieman
Toronto50 to confirm[/u]
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Postby Dr.Publix » Thu Mar 22, 2012 9:52 am

1. geekor – Pirates - C. Parmelee 1B (Twins)
2. Carlerik - Padres - Napoli C (Rangers)
3. Dr. Publix - Mets - D Ortiz (Red Sox)
4. Delbird - Athletics - M. Morse 1B (Nationals)
5. geekor – Pirates - A Ramirez 3B (Cubs)
6. Carlerik - Padres - Hardy SS (Orioles)
7. Dr. Publix - Mets - B Pill 1B (Giants)
8. Delbird - Athletics - B. LaHair (Cubs)
9. MoFo's of Mayhem - Royals - B League CP (Mariners)
10. ehlekev - Indians - M Garza SP (Cubs)
11. oldmansmith - White Sox - A Jones CF (Orioles)
12. Paul_Long - Blue Jays - Jordan Zimmerman SP (Nationals)
13. Gumby3640 - Dbacks - Michael Pineda SP (Mariners)
14. buzz082308 - Marlins - Matt Downs - (Houston)
15. WJS6768 - Rockies - Felix Hernandez SP (Mariners)
16. Pdhd0522 - Angels - Matt Wieters (Orioles)
17. geekor – Pirates - Scott Baker (Twins)
18. Carlerik - Padres - Markakis RF (Orioles)
19. Dr. Publix - Mets - John Mayberry, jr. cf (Phillies)
20. Delbird - Athletics - Tyler Clippard RP (Nationals)
21. MoFo's of Mayhem - Royals - Wandy Rodriguez SP (Astros)
22. ehlekev - Indians - Reed Johnson OF (Cubs)
23. oldmansmith - White Sox - Jake Fox C (Bal)
24. Paul_Long - Blue Jays - Casper Wells OF (Sea)
25. Gumby3640 - Dbacks - Clint Barmes SS (Houston)
26. buzz082308 - Marlins - Carlos Pena (Chicago Cubs)
27. WJS6768 - Rockies - Allen Craig LF (St. Louis)
28. Pdhd0522 - Angels - K. Youklis (Boston)
29. geekor – Pirates - J Vargas SP (Seattle)
30. Carlerik - Padres - Patton RP (Orioles)
31. Dr. Publix - Mets- W Ramos C (Nats)
32. Delbird - Athletics - Ryan Zimmerman 3B (Nationals)
33. Paul_Long (traded) - Blue Jays - Michael Cuddyer (Twins)
34. ehlekev - Indians - Drew Storen - RP (Nationals)
35. oldmansmith - White Sox - Dustin Ackley - 2B (Mariners)
36. MoFo's of Mayhem (traded) - Royals - Mark Reynolds (Orioles)
37. Gumby3640 - Dbacks - B. Bogusevic - RF (Houston)
38. buzz082308 - Marlins - Brendan Ryan SS (Mariners)
39. WJS6768 - Rockies - Sean Marshall RP (Cubs)
40. Toronto50(trade) - Rays - Nolan Reimold (Orioles)
41. geekor – Pirates - S Castro - SS (Cubs)
42. Carlerik - Padres - Detweiler - SP (Nats)
43. Dr. Publix - Mets - J Johnson rp (orioles)
44. Toronto50(trade) - Rays - Perkins RP (Twins)
45. MoFo's of Mayhem - Royals - Melancon RP (Astros)
46. ehlekev - Indians - Mike Carp (Seattle)
47. oldmansmith - White Sox - Danny Espinosa 2b (nationals)
48. Paul_Long - Blue Jays - Jeff Samardzija RP (Cubs)
49. Gumby3640 - Dbacks - Ryan Mattheus RP (Nationals)
50. buzz082308 - Marlins - Ryan Langerhans OF (Mariners)
51. WJS6768 - Rockies - Anthony Swarzak SP (Twins)
52. Pdhd0522 - Angels - Brett Myers (Houston)
53. geekor - Pirates - Wilhelmsen RP (Mariners)
54. Carlerik - Padres - Barney 2B (Cubs)
55. Dr. Publix - Mets - J Guthrie SP (Orioles)
56. Delbird - Athletics - Robert Andino IF (Orioles)
57. Dr. Publix (traded) Mets - Z Britton SP (Orioles)
58. ehlekev - Indians - Alex Liddi 3B (Mariners)
59. oldmansmith - White Sox - Jimmy Paredes 3b (Astros)
60. mbrake (traded) - Yankees - SP Bud Norris (Astros)
61. Gumby3640 - Dbacks - 3B Chris Davis (Orioles)
62. buzz082308 - Marlins - John Lannan SP - (Nationals)
63. WJS6768 - Rockies - Jayson Werth RF - (Nationals)
64. Pdhd0522 - Angels Joe Mauer (Twins)

65. Geekor - Pirates

66. Carlerik - Padres
67. Toronto50 - Rays (traded from Mets)
68. oldmansmith -White Sox (trade from Oakland A's for Pierzynski)
69. MoFo's of Mayhem - Royals
70. ehlekev - Indians
71. oldmansmith - White Sox
72. Paul_Long - Blue Jays
73. Gumby3640 - Dbacks
74. buzz082308 - Marlin
75. WJS6768 - Rockies
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80. Jack - Texas Rangers in trade from Oakland A's
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Postby geekor » Thu Mar 22, 2012 10:09 am

1. geekor – Pirates - C. Parmelee 1B (Twins)
2. Carlerik - Padres - Napoli C (Rangers)
3. Dr. Publix - Mets - D Ortiz (Red Sox)
4. Delbird - Athletics - M. Morse 1B (Nationals)
5. geekor – Pirates - A Ramirez 3B (Cubs)
6. Carlerik - Padres - Hardy SS (Orioles)
7. Dr. Publix - Mets - B Pill 1B (Giants)
8. Delbird - Athletics - B. LaHair (Cubs)
9. MoFo's of Mayhem - Royals - B League CP (Mariners)
10. ehlekev - Indians - M Garza SP (Cubs)
11. oldmansmith - White Sox - A Jones CF (Orioles)
12. Paul_Long - Blue Jays - Jordan Zimmerman SP (Nationals)
13. Gumby3640 - Dbacks - Michael Pineda SP (Mariners)
14. buzz082308 - Marlins - Matt Downs - (Houston)
15. WJS6768 - Rockies - Felix Hernandez SP (Mariners)
16. Pdhd0522 - Angels - Matt Wieters (Orioles)
17. geekor – Pirates - Scott Baker (Twins)
18. Carlerik - Padres - Markakis RF (Orioles)
19. Dr. Publix - Mets - John Mayberry, jr. cf (Phillies)
20. Delbird - Athletics - Tyler Clippard RP (Nationals)
21. MoFo's of Mayhem - Royals - Wandy Rodriguez SP (Astros)
22. ehlekev - Indians - Reed Johnson OF (Cubs)
23. oldmansmith - White Sox - Jake Fox C (Bal)
24. Paul_Long - Blue Jays - Casper Wells OF (Sea)
25. Gumby3640 - Dbacks - Clint Barmes SS (Houston)
26. buzz082308 - Marlins - Carlos Pena (Chicago Cubs)
27. WJS6768 - Rockies - Allen Craig LF (St. Louis)
28. Pdhd0522 - Angels - K. Youklis (Boston)
29. geekor – Pirates - J Vargas SP (Seattle)
30. Carlerik - Padres - Patton RP (Orioles)
31. Dr. Publix - Mets- W Ramos C (Nats)
32. Delbird - Athletics - Ryan Zimmerman 3B (Nationals)
33. Paul_Long (traded) - Blue Jays - Michael Cuddyer (Twins)
34. ehlekev - Indians - Drew Storen - RP (Nationals)
35. oldmansmith - White Sox - Dustin Ackley - 2B (Mariners)
36. MoFo's of Mayhem (traded) - Royals - Mark Reynolds (Orioles)
37. Gumby3640 - Dbacks - B. Bogusevic - RF (Houston)
38. buzz082308 - Marlins - Brendan Ryan SS (Mariners)
39. WJS6768 - Rockies - Sean Marshall RP (Cubs)
40. Toronto50(trade) - Rays - Nolan Reimold (Orioles)
41. geekor – Pirates - S Castro - SS (Cubs)
42. Carlerik - Padres - Detweiler - SP (Nats)
43. Dr. Publix - Mets - J Johnson rp (orioles)
44. Toronto50(trade) - Rays - Perkins RP (Twins)
45. MoFo's of Mayhem - Royals - Melancon RP (Astros)
46. ehlekev - Indians - Mike Carp (Seattle)
47. oldmansmith - White Sox - Danny Espinosa 2b (nationals)
48. Paul_Long - Blue Jays - Jeff Samardzija RP (Cubs)
49. Gumby3640 - Dbacks - Ryan Mattheus RP (Nationals)
50. buzz082308 - Marlins - Ryan Langerhans OF (Mariners)
51. WJS6768 - Rockies - Anthony Swarzak SP (Twins)
52. Pdhd0522 - Angels - Brett Myers (Houston)
53. geekor - Pirates - Wilhelmsen RP (Mariners)
54. Carlerik - Padres - Barney 2B (Cubs)
55. Dr. Publix - Mets - J Guthrie SP (Orioles)
56. Delbird - Athletics - Robert Andino IF (Orioles)
57. Dr. Publix (traded) Mets - Z Britton SP (Orioles)
58. ehlekev - Indians - Alex Liddi 3B (Mariners)
59. oldmansmith - White Sox - Jimmy Paredes 3b (Astros)
60. mbrake (traded) - Yankees - SP Bud Norris (Astros)
61. Gumby3640 - Dbacks - 3B Chris Davis (Orioles)
62. buzz082308 - Marlins - John Lannan SP - (Nationals)
63. WJS6768 - Rockies - Jayson Werth RF - (Nationals)
64. Pdhd0522 - Angels Joe Mauer (Twins)
65. Geekor - Pirates - I Desmond SS (Was)

66. Carlerik - Padres

67. Toronto50 - Rays (traded from Mets)
68. oldmansmith -White Sox (trade from Oakland A's for Pierzynski)
69. MoFo's of Mayhem - Royals
70. ehlekev - Indians
71. oldmansmith - White Sox
72. Paul_Long - Blue Jays
73. Gumby3640 - Dbacks
74. buzz082308 - Marlin
75. WJS6768 - Rockies
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80. Jack - Texas Rangers in trade from Oakland A's
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Refuse to Load

Postby jugslavin » Thu Mar 22, 2012 10:27 am

The league is set up as a Waivers league. As such, it's difficult to understand the refusal of the remaining teams in the East to load their teams. Can't any subsequent trade acquisitions be added as waiver claims? Even players traded after loading could actually be...traded...

I agree that it would be nice to start the league a week earlier than waiting 'till April.

So far the format is very enjoyable, the trading of draft picks for talent extremely interesting, the jockeying for position in the draft...the whole thing adds many layers of interest and fun. It's my first league of this sort. My hat is off to the ingenious spark that made it happen.

Here's to a fun season for all (starting in March...perhaps?).
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