Reelin' in the Years League

[JMP1]

I have the #10, #12 an #16 picks in the upcoming draft to trade.

Looking for a Catcher, 2B, 3B and #3 type starter.

[tcochran]

[quote:fd794d954a="padrenurgle"]padrenurgle - Yes. 3 players per team. I think it's VERY IMPORTANT to limit the number of prospects we can keep, otherwise the annual free agent draft will suck. There will never be any exciting new players in the standard draft if we have 120 minor leaguers locked up. Very few per team, 3 or 4. Draft order random and snaking. Minor league players may be kept forever or until carded for the first time. Established players who don't get carded one year are not eligible as "prospects."[/quote:fd794d954a]

Hey Padre, help us understand the fine print. It looks like you are suggesting a 3-round prospect draft, with each team keeping a total of 3 or 4 prospects at any one time. Is that what you meant?

[RICHARDGAGNON]

Jmp I don't have Nothing in my pm.[/i]

[JMP1]

[quote:036c41e7e0="herge"]Jmp I don't have Nothing in my pm.[/i][/quote:036c41e7e0]



You do now!

[padrenurgle1]

[quote:cffd26c91d="tcochran"][quote:cffd26c91d="padrenurgle"]padrenurgle - Yes. 3 players per team. I think it's VERY IMPORTANT to limit the number of prospects we can keep, otherwise the annual free agent draft will suck. There will never be any exciting new players in the standard draft if we have 120 minor leaguers locked up. Very few per team, 3 or 4. Draft order random and snaking. Minor league players may be kept forever or until carded for the first time. Established players who don't get carded one year are not eligible as "prospects."[/quote:cffd26c91d]

Hey Padre, help us understand the fine print. It looks like you are suggesting a 3-round prospect draft, with each team keeping a total of 3 or 4 prospects at any one time. Is that what you meant?[/quote:cffd26c91d]

Hi -

I didn't think it all the way through, but the main thing is we don't want a basket of 10 prospects per team. If we have that, the fundamental yearly draft we've always used will be come meaningless. Any new talent will already be locked up if our minor leagues are that deep. I'm thinking something like a 3-round prospect draft, and maybe yes, only 4 or so prospects held over each year. If you like the three guys you already have, you'll only use 1 of your prospect draft picks the next year. Something like that.

Do you see the problem that I do with a bigger minor league system than that?

[JMP1]

Padre,

I am in several leagues were we draft 4 prospects and it works well.

Keeping 10 prospects has not happened yet. You hurt your team stockpiling rather than promoting prospects. At the same time a team that is struggling can trade veterans for prospects and rebuild. At that point a team may have more than 3 or 4.

Some really look forward to the prospect draft and seem to enjoy more than the FA draft.

I am confident you will not be disappointed if that is the way we go.

[CATom]

1. - unleashed, EVERY CARD
2. NO prospect draft
3. 40
4. start '12
5. 2 seasons / NO FA dratf
6. May 1, 3 hr clock, 40. YES.

Tom.

[padrenurgle1]

:evil:

Feliz. Santana. Jones. Now Bartlett. All injured in the World Series.

[tcochran]

[quote:399f0d026c="padrenurgle"]:evil:

Feliz. Santana. Jones. Now Bartlett. All injured in the World Series.[/quote:399f0d026c]

HAL may be saying that, like the Bums of 1955, it just might be the year for Joe's team to take it all.

[tcochran]

[b:ef36cce4a8]1. Unleashed or regular. If unleashed, which unleashed players are allowed in? Which season does this start?[/b:ef36cce4a8]

manleeman - Leashed
he's meat leashed
CATom- unleashed, EVERY CARD
JMP1 -unleased. Keep it simple. All cards starting with 2012.
[color=red:ef36cce4a8]herge[/color:ef36cce4a8]
lumberco - Leashed
tcochran - unleashed, all unleashed cards are available, starting with 2012 set.
joekendall - unleashed with AB and IP limits. 2012 set.
[color=red:ef36cce4a8]killermarc[/color:ef36cce4a8]
padrenurgle - unleashed, all unleashed cards are available, starting with 2012 set.
[color=red:ef36cce4a8]ggrover15[/color:ef36cce4a8]
jflatour99- unleashed, all cards avail. 2012 set.

[b:ef36cce4a8]2. Prospect draft or not. If so, how many players, how is the draft order determined, and when must they be promoted or released?[/b:ef36cce4a8]

manleeman - 5 prospect draft,10 max,keep 4 years based on record,non-serpentine draft now
he's meat padres proposal
CATom - NO prospect draft
JMP1 - Yes. 4 players per team - who have never received a card. Draft order based on previous card set's record (2 seasons to balance unbalanced divisions). Prospects can be kept until they receive a card. 10 Prospects max.
[color=red:ef36cce4a8]herge[/color:ef36cce4a8]
lumberco - 5 prospect draft,10 max, None serpentine
tcochran - Yes. 4 players per team - who have never received a card. Draft order based on previous card set's record (1 or 2 seasons). Prospects can be kept until they receive a card. 10 Prospects max.
joekendall - Yes. 4 players per team. Draft order based on previous season's record. Prospects can be kept indefinitely. 10 Prospects max.
[color=red:ef36cce4a8]killermarc[/color:ef36cce4a8]
padrenurgle - Yes. 3 players per team. I think it's VERY IMPORTANT to limit the number of prospects we can keep, otherwise the annual free agent draft will suck. There will never be any exciting new players in the standard draft if we have 120 minor leaguers locked up. Very few per team, 3 or 4. Draft order random and snaking. Minor league players may be kept forever or until carded for the first time. Established players who don't get carded one year are not eligible as "prospects."
[color=red:ef36cce4a8]ggrover15[/color:ef36cce4a8]
jflatour99- Yes. Same as Padrenurgle's

[b:ef36cce4a8]3. Do we continue to pare down from 40 to 30 prior to the FA draft, or some other number?[/b:ef36cce4a8]

manleeman - 30 keepers as You guys won,t buy 5
he's meat 30
CATom - 40
JMP1 - 30
[color=red:ef36cce4a8]herge[/color:ef36cce4a8]
lumberco - 30 keepers
tcochran - keep it the same. 30.
joekendall - 30
[color=red:ef36cce4a8]killermarc[/color:ef36cce4a8]
padrenurgle - keep it the same. 30.
[color=red:ef36cce4a8]ggrover15[/color:ef36cce4a8]
jflatour99- keep 30

[b:ef36cce4a8]4. Do changes start in 2012 season cards or 2011 season cards?[/b:ef36cce4a8]

manleeman- start in 2011
he's meat 2012
CATom - start '12
JMP1 - Prospect draft starts after annual draft for 2011 card set; other changes take effect with 2012 set.
[color=red:ef36cce4a8]herge[/color:ef36cce4a8]
lumberco - start in 2011
tcochran - Prospect draft starts after annual draft for 2011 card set; other changes take effect with 2012 set
joekendall - 2012
[color=red:ef36cce4a8]killermarc[/color:ef36cce4a8]
padrenurgle - Changes take place after 2011 RITY season is played
[color=red:ef36cce4a8]ggrover15[/color:ef36cce4a8]
jflatour99- 2012

[b:ef36cce4a8]5. Shall we play 1 or 2 seasons with each card set? If 2, should there be a 3-round supplemental draft between seasons? Also, if 2, should next FA draft sequence be based on combined 2-season records?[/b:ef36cce4a8]

manleeman - two season I a a glutton for punishment
he's meat two, combined for draft
CATom - 2 seasons / NO FA dratf
JMP1 - Let's play 2! Yes to supp draft.
[color=red:ef36cce4a8]herge
lumberco[/color:ef36cce4a8]
tcochran - 1 season; but if 2, then yes to supp draft and yes to using combined records
[color=red:ef36cce4a8]joekendall
killermarc[/color:ef36cce4a8]
padrenurgle - I'd say 1 season but am willing to play 2, BUT I think only the first one should "count" for league records etc.
[color=red:ef36cce4a8]ggrover15[/color:ef36cce4a8]
jflatour99- open to 2 seasons , combined records

[b:ef36cce4a8]6. Misc housekeeping:[/b:ef36cce4a8]

a. Start draft for 2012 card set on June 1?
b. No clock in 1st round of drafts from 2012 card set forward?
c. Fill rosters to 40 players during FA draft?
d. Break ties based on head-to-head records of recent seasons, going back one card set at a time (instead of previous "cumulative" rule)

[color=red:ef36cce4a8]manleeman[/color:ef36cce4a8]
he's meat june 1, 24 hour clock first, 30, recent
CATom - May 1, 3 hr clock, 40. YES.
JMP1 - June 1; 24 hour clock in 1st rd.; 40; abstain.
[color=red:ef36cce4a8]herge
lumberco[/color:ef36cce4a8]
tcochran - June 1, no clock, 40, recent seasons
[color=red:ef36cce4a8]joekendall
killermarc[/color:ef36cce4a8]
padrenurgle - June 1 is fine, no clock for new drafts as long as all managers have posted on the thread within a week of the draft, rosters should be 40, I don't care how ties are broken
[color=red:ef36cce4a8]ggrover15[/color:ef36cce4a8]
jflatour99- June 1, no clock, 40, recent seasons