advice for this team

[tomwistar]

I haven't tried the Dale Murray strategy yet -- this is an attempt at a variant, with two strong pen guys instead of one.

http://fantasygames.sportingnews.com/stratomatic/team/team_other.html?user_id=374985

Division includes Hilltop, Arlington, and League '34. Lots of lefty-leaning parks outside the division. I'm up against a bunch of Cone/Barker/Blass type pitchers in my divison, so I'm batting Sisler/Fox 1-2 to try to take advantage of them.

Thanks for any advice!

[PotKettleBlack]

Wasted money, imo.

Murray can throw >250 IP. With Radatz around, he will probably throw <180. Alternatively, Radatz can throw >220, but with Murray around, will be limited to <130.

You could use the money to get a second catcher. As it stands now, your roster is illegal.

[jet40]

I am trying the same thing Tom.

Goodluck

[Mr Baseball World]

[quote:6e53311b54="PotKettleBlack"]Wasted money, imo.

Murray can throw >250 IP. With Radatz around, he will probably throw <180. Alternatively, Radatz can throw >220, but with Murray around, will be limited to <130.

You could use the money to get a second catcher. As it stands now, your roster is illegal.[/quote:6e53311b54]

I will look for it tonight but as I recall someone used Murray and either Raddatz or Sutter and got over 400 innings out of Murray and at least 200 out of the other and won maybe 100 games...........

[tomwistar]

I could drop Radatz to Quisenberry and upgrade one of my crap starters to someone like Whitey Moore. But I'm not sure if the tradeoff is worth it: 3/5 of an okay rotation and a good pen vs. 2/5 okay rotation and a killer pen. Any other opinions?

I don't have any experience with Donald, Hendrix, or Moore in ATG 6, so not sure what to expect from them.

[FUDU]

Will you be facing a lot of LHB?

Either way aren't Murray and Radazt be a tad redundant?

If you are facing a lot of LHB, what about Dennis Bennett 1.91 card. Spot start/relieve, save you money for upgrades elsewhere? A Klippstein card?

ETA: from what I can tell you will be facing 3 teams with mostly LH lineups in extreme LH power parks, 1 of them in your division.

[tomwistar]

The good cheap SP like Bennett, Klippstein, Sutton are all taken. Yeah, there are quite a few LHB in my division and league; most of the parks have a lefty tilt. Which seems like Radatz/Murray would be pretty good for that, as reverse righties.

[Mr Baseball World]

Murray, Dale (1974) R R4 37 5 25 7 418.1 363 163 127 165 139 19 2.73 1.26 2L 5.59M
Sutter, Bruce (1977) R R3 15 7 20 3 253.1 228 111 95 71 307 25 3.38 1.18 3L 5.53M

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[gkhd11a]

[i:34e84203f8]I thought about this as I found this an interesting scenario and thought what would I do, forgive me the following is kind of a rambling response but is how my brain tends to work when thinking about these things.[/i:34e84203f8]

The general idea to me of this team is a comeback type team that is hard to score against at the end. And you want to have somewhat effective starters for about 5 innings but get them out after that for the Super guys. For this I think you'd need a different offense.

I would reccomend that you drop Kiner Sisler and whatever monstrosity you have at 2B and pick up Rickie Henderson for Left field, Hank Greenberg (the cheap one) for 1B and upgrade 2B to Hornsby.

I would also suggest Byrne for a LH pitcher or Sam Frock or Bert Maxwell for your more expensive pitchers and perhaps drop Frank Robinson for 1912 Ty Cobb and use Hornsby for 2B or something along those lines.

In general I think you need cheap pitchers that have S5 cards if possible and are marked 6IP max because you want to maximise your stud relief pitchers.

But to score runs you need some fast high OBP at the top of the lineup before your power hitters. As constructed this team is a Kiner- Sisler team and I think you have much better offensive weapons available in the free agent pool for the money. I think what you want for this idea is a team that can always be coming back and with the holes in your lineup at 2B, SS and it appears the pitcher batting, it will be difficult to have the comeback victories as your #6 hitter is going to get a lot of walks in good situations I fear. I have seen Oquendo be good at times but never consistently.

With Matt Williams on the team I also would be willing to put Cesar Geronimo in CF (giving decent bottom of the lineup vs righties with exceptional defense) with 1912 Ty Cobb in RF (great offense, poor defense and an injury riskbut very much worth the risk) and then move Cobb to CF vs lefties with a strong 6or 7L such as Valentine or Harper or even Gene Clines in RF. Along with Matt Williams your team will be so strong against lefties that the weak pitiful defense against lefties will not be a problem.

So after rambling a bit I would suggest a lineup of Cobb RF Geronimo CF /Gene CLines RF vs LHP Henderson LF Greenberg 1B Hornsby 2B. I think you'd need about a million saved in pitching to make that happen but then your lineup could be:


Rickie Henderson LF
Cobb RF
Hornsby 2B
Greenberg 1b
I-Rod C
Matt Williams 3B
Eddie Miller SS Or Oquendo (could be leadoff if Oquendo)
Cesar Geronimo/Gene Clines
I would also suggest an additional decent pinch hitters vs lefties and righties for your team as you will be trailing a lot early and that allows HAL to pinch hit for your starting pitcher. My preferences usually run for a Cardenal for lefties and Leflore (.58) for righties but that is just my preference.

[tomwistar]

Thanks for some really interesting recommendations ... I had wanted to use Hornsby but couldn't figure out how to make the money work. The thought of using Cobb hadn't occurred to me. (I'm too rusty at this game!) I got those two guys and Greenberg; kept Dimaggio in CF, upgrading to his -4 arm/low inj. risk; and picked up Miller for short and Weintraub/Clines for leadoff LF. Not great defense, but I've had worse. I was worried about the strong RHP in my division against RHs, but Weintraub/Cobb/Hornsby should solve that problem and give me plenty of OBP. I also like that I don't have any total black holes in the lineup like before.

Now we'll see if my SP can get me out of the fifth inning alive.