Is it just me?

Postby geekor » Mon Apr 09, 2012 1:37 pm

hey my team is the league leader in OBP in our precard league

at




.330

:lol:

you're right, pathetic
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Postby lev.cohen » Mon Apr 09, 2012 2:19 pm

mine is .334.. but im only getting OB out of my stars, nothing out of the 2-4 million range
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Postby theClaw » Mon Apr 09, 2012 3:30 pm

same story. In two leagues. The 1st OB% is .318. My team is at .330 and no surprise I lead the league in runs scored, record is 48-36.

The 2nd league OB% is .315. My team is at .311 and has a record of 23-19. In the middle of the pack for runs scored.
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Postby geekor » Mon Apr 09, 2012 4:19 pm

Yea, it looks like a painful learning curve. For sure offense is down, but again so was MLB offense.

My issues is with the pricing as it really seems there was a 3rd straight seasons of defense costing more in relation to hitting. It seems every season defense costs a little bit more than the season before. So guys like Zobrist, who really isn't worth more than Bonifacio in the hitting department, are costing 3-4 million for the D.

I just don't really see, other than the guys who are stud hitters as well (Kemp, Ellsbury types) it being worth spending money on 1's with no real upside.

I mean at least in my leagues Pedroia and Zobrist have been horrible, I mean below .250/.300 in every league, for what? For a 1? Give me Howie and extra millions in the bank any day!
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Postby geekor » Mon Apr 09, 2012 4:23 pm

Basically, Vis is saying it's already time for a "chick dig the longball" league

:lol:
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Postby visick » Mon Apr 09, 2012 5:10 pm

U see right thru me Joe... :lol:
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Postby padrenurgle1 » Mon Apr 09, 2012 6:07 pm

If you think about what MLB pitchers did last year, you realize that bullpens dominated...so the 2011 hitters are pretty much always facing decent pitching, and almost never facing scrub/replacement level pitching. It means that half the at-bats, the ones on pitcher cards, end up with a very low probability of getting on base. Pitching is also CHEAP in this set, because the supply is so good, which means that opponents always have good to great pitching.
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Postby chasenally » Mon Apr 09, 2012 6:07 pm

I already mentioned Francouer in another thread (he is now up to 6 doubles in 192AB) but on the same team Kemp is batting .221/.301/.390. The team has a .319OBP. Haven't checked out the numbers but there sure seems to be many DP's that kill innings.
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Postby lev.cohen » Mon Apr 09, 2012 7:10 pm

These are some of the cheap guys in my league that have decent OB%
jeter (.412), v mart (.408), Alexei (.374), Callaspo (.364), R. Tejada (.359)

Any others?
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Postby thisisdan26 » Mon Apr 09, 2012 7:36 pm

Yeah I'm see the same thing. I have a few random guys "over-perfoming" (which means they are basically putting up their real stats) but the vast majority of guys are well below their numbers.


McCann - .208 .264 .305 (in GAB)
Braun - .288 .377 .512 (good but not for $9 mill in GAB)
Konerko - .240 .351 .453 (Rogers)
Melky Cab - .259 .290 .428 (Citizens)
Swisher - .190 .319 .318 (Citizens)
Mayberry Jr. - .208 .277 .394 (Sun Life)
Holliday - .233 .347 .373 (Sun Life)
Dan. Murphy - .217 .283 .283 (Sun life) - Far cry from a .320 average
B. Lawrie - .190 .270 .380 (GAB)
Francouer - .146 .180 .313 (GAB) - By far the most "overpriced" card in the set. Thing is, I wouldn't mind spending $6mill on him if he ACTUALLY put up his real life numbers, but with the way his card came out, there's no way he's going to do that.
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