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[calbatross]

[b:7666a6ec14]Round 2 - Pick anytime:

30. Aray0113 -
44. ShakeyBoomer (Repick) -
47. Geoff Brookes (from Detroit Tigers) - [/b:7666a6ec14]

[b:7666a6ec14]Round 3 (April 17) [/b:7666a6ec14]

49. The Turtle (From Mbertolli) 10:00-10:30 am - Jerry Sands OF LAD (proxy)
50. Derfs 10:30-11:00 am - Juan Nicasio SP COL
51. Thisisdan 11:00-11:30 am - Cliff Pennington SS
52. Buzz 11:30-12:00 pm - Anthony Swarzak , Pitcher, Minn.
53. NHSteven 12:00-12:30 pm - Jose Constanza OF ATL

[b:7666a6ec14]54. Aray0113 12:30-1:00 pm

55. SJKorte 1:00-1:30 pm - REPICK (Lance Lynn was drafted earlier by Geoff) [/b:7666a6ec14]

56. TheChamp87 1:30-2:00pm
57. AZPanthers 2:00-2:30 pm
58. Geoff Brookes 2:30-3:00 pm
59. Blackjack 3:00-3:30 pm
60. Boblues41 3:30-4:00 pm
61. Calbatross 4:00-4:30 pm
62. Spider67 4:30-5:00 pm
63. Joker 5:00-5:30 pm
64. Rburgh 5:30-6:00 pm
65. Apollo16 6:00-6:30 pm
66. The Turtle 6:30-7:00 pm
67. Cubit 7:00-7:30 pm
68. ShakeyBoomer 7:30-8:00 pm
69. Ed1447 8:00-8:30 pm
70. Page2 8:30-9:00 pm
71. Detroit-Tigers 9:00-9:30 pm
72. CATom 9:30 - 10:00 pm

[azpanthers11]

Round 2 - Pick anytime: 

30. Aray0113 - 
44. ShakeyBoomer (Repick) - 
47. Geoff Brookes (from Detroit Tigers) - 

Round 3 (April 17) 

49. The Turtle (From Mbertolli) 10:00-10:30 am - Jerry Sands OF LAD (proxy) 
50. Derfs 10:30-11:00 am - Juan Nicasio SP COL 
51. Thisisdan 11:00-11:30 am - Cliff Pennington SS 
52. Buzz 11:30-12:00 pm - Anthony Swarzak , Pitcher, Minn.
53. NHSteven 12:00-12:30 pm - Jose Constanza OF ATL 

54. Aray0113 12:30-1:00 pm 

55. SJKorte 1:00-1:30 pm - REPICK (Lance Lynn was drafted earlier by Geoff) 

56. TheChamp87 1:30-2:00pm 
57. AZPanthers 2:00-2:30 pm - George Kottaras C MIL
58. Geoff Brookes 2:30-3:00 pm 
59. Blackjack 3:00-3:30 pm 
60. Boblues41 3:30-4:00 pm 
61. Calbatross 4:00-4:30 pm 
62. Spider67 4:30-5:00 pm 
63. Joker 5:00-5:30 pm 
64. Rburgh 5:30-6:00 pm 
65. Apollo16 6:00-6:30 pm 
66. The Turtle 6:30-7:00 pm 
67. Cubit 7:00-7:30 pm 
68. ShakeyBoomer 7:30-8:00 pm 
69. Ed1447 8:00-8:30 pm 
70. Page2 8:30-9:00 pm 
71. Detroit-Tigers 9:00-9:30 pm 
72. CATom 9:30 - 10:00 pm

[STEVEKORTE]

Sorry, no internet access other than phone right now.

Round 2 - Pick anytime:

30. Aray0113 -
44. ShakeyBoomer (Repick) -
47. Geoff Brookes (from Detroit Tigers) -

Round 3 (April 17)

49. The Turtle (From Mbertolli) 10:00-10:30 am - Jerry Sands OF LAD (proxy)
50. Derfs 10:30-11:00 am - Juan Nicasio SP COL
51. Thisisdan 11:00-11:30 am - Cliff Pennington SS
52. Buzz 11:30-12:00 pm - Anthony Swarzak , Pitcher, Minn.
53. NHSteven 12:00-12:30 pm - Jose Constanza OF ATL

54. Aray0113 12:30-1:00 pm

55. SJKorte 1:00-1:30 pm - Jim Johnson RP BAL

56. TheChamp87 1:30-2:00pm
57. AZPanthers 2:00-2:30 pm - George Kottaras C MIL
58. Geoff Brookes 2:30-3:00 pm
59. Blackjack 3:00-3:30 pm
60. Boblues41 3:30-4:00 pm
61. Calbatross 4:00-4:30 pm
62. Spider67 4:30-5:00 pm
63. Joker 5:00-5:30 pm
64. Rburgh 5:30-6:00 pm
65. Apollo16 6:00-6:30 pm
66. The Turtle 6:30-7:00 pm
67. Cubit 7:00-7:30 pm
68. ShakeyBoomer 7:30-8:00 pm
69. Ed1447 8:00-8:30 pm
70. Page2 8:30-9:00 pm
71. Detroit-Tigers 9:00-9:30 pm
72. CATom 9:30 - 10:00 pm

[travelingjack]

[quote="calbatross"]Like rburgh, I too showed Darren Oliver on Geoff's team roster. Here is where Detroit Tigers sent Darren Oliver to Iron Will:

http://forums.sportingnews.com/viewtopic.php?t=626621&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=525#comments

[quote:eaed94b05e]DT Trades #1 prospect pick and Darren Oliver (RP) to Ironwill for the #2 pick in the draft and Thatcher. [/quote:eaed94b05e]


[b:eaed94b05e]Unless I am missing it Ironwill never confirmed this trade and DT used Oliver on his team so he remains the property of DT. Go to recently completed teams and "see all" to look at your old leagues. DT also used Thatcher, which should have been illegal since the trade was never confirmed and he was using Oliver. Since no one noticed it's over and done with, was more than likely an accident anyway but there is a good illustration of why you wait until a trade is confirmed.

Turtle will need to rule on this but as far as I am concerned no picks were exchanged and Detroit-Tigers has no claim on Oliver or Thatcher. If Geoff wants to keep Oliver instead of one of his other keepers he can, otherwise Oliver goes to Shakey.[b][/b:eaed94b05e]

Here is the prospect draft, DT picked 1st and ironwill 2nd, so the trade was never made. No picks are to be exchanged in this year's draft as a result of the non-trade. Turtle will need to rule on Oliver's status.

ironwill1
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Round 1

1. Detroit-Tigers- Harper
2. ironwill1 - Brett Lawrie 3B Tor
3. boblues41
4. buzz082308
5. thisisdan26

[b:eaed94b05e]However[/b:eaed94b05e], as a result of the later trade Geoff does own DT's 2nd rd FA pick. My mistake there, I forgot to list the pick in the googledoc trades.

Trade Offer to Pinegrove Ranchers

To: Pinegrove Ranchers
Sent: Wed, 11/23 05:10:38PM
Status: accepted
Subject: TRADE OFFER: + Second Round pick

BronxBomber Supermen give up:
Broxton, Jonathan ($800,000)
Sanches, Brian ($3,100,000)
2nd Round Draft pick in the Free Agent draft.

Pinegrove Ranchers gives up:
Kuo, Hong-Chih ($5,970,000)
Thatcher, Joe ($5,230,000)

COnfirmed

[travelingjack]

[quote:a52c967710="calbatross"]I do not see where derfs owned Christhian Martinez... he was available in my workbook, and I have been keeping it up to date. is there any reference to back up derfs ownership of Martinez?

derfs drafted a CARLOS Martinez in the prospects draft.[/quote:a52c967710]

ed drafted Christian Martinez in the 2nd rd, he is correctly listed on ed's roster. Carlos Martinez is listed on derf's prospect roster. I am going to have aliens kidnap one of the C. Martinez's so there is no more confusion. EDIT- just saw Ed's repick, why the repick? Was there confusion about Ch. Martinez? Unless Turtle rules otherwise valid picks are final so Ed should keep Ch. Martinez.

CATom- Oswalt is back on your roster.

I will update the googledoc in a hour or so, need to walk the dog, work out, do some work homework, pick up kid from school, and take several headache relievers.[/b]

[The Turtle]

[quote="blackjack57"][quote:34d421dda5="calbatross"]Like rburgh, I too showed Darren Oliver on Geoff's team roster. Here is where Detroit Tigers sent Darren Oliver to Iron Will:

http://forums.sportingnews.com/viewtopic.php?t=626621&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=525#comments

[quote:34d421dda5]DT Trades #1 prospect pick and Darren Oliver (RP) to Ironwill for the #2 pick in the draft and Thatcher. [/quote:34d421dda5]


[b:34d421dda5]Unless I am missing it Ironwill never confirmed this trade and DT used Oliver on his team so he remains the property of DT. Go to recently completed teams and "see all" to look at your old leagues. DT also used Thatcher, which should have been illegal since the trade was never confirmed and he was using Oliver. Since no one noticed it's over and done with, was more than likely an accident anyway but there is a good illustration of why you wait until a trade is confirmed.

Turtle will need to rule on this but as far as I am concerned no picks were exchanged and Detroit-Tigers has no claim on Oliver or Thatcher. If Geoff wants to keep Oliver instead of one of his other keepers he can, otherwise Oliver goes to Shakey.[b][/b:34d421dda5]

Here is the prospect draft, DT picked 1st and ironwill 2nd, so the trade was never made. No picks are to be exchanged in this year's draft as a result of the non-trade. Turtle will need to rule on Oliver's status.

ironwill1
MVP


Joined: 01 Aug 2005
Posts: 2075

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Round 1

1. Detroit-Tigers- Harper
2. ironwill1 - Brett Lawrie 3B Tor
3. boblues41
4. buzz082308
5. thisisdan26

[b:34d421dda5]However[/b:34d421dda5], as a result of the later trade Geoff does own DT's 2nd rd FA pick. My mistake there, I forgot to list the pick in the googledoc trades.

Trade Offer to Pinegrove Ranchers

To: Pinegrove Ranchers
Sent: Wed, 11/23 05:10:38PM
Status: accepted
Subject: TRADE OFFER: + Second Round pick

BronxBomber Supermen give up:
Broxton, Jonathan ($800,000)
Sanches, Brian ($3,100,000)
2nd Round Draft pick in the Free Agent draft.

Pinegrove Ranchers gives up:
Kuo, Hong-Chih ($5,970,000)
Thatcher, Joe ($5,230,000)

COnfirmed[/quote:34d421dda5]

The problem with not saying this trade was confirmed is that there trade was made in league and was therefore confirmed. We can't say the trade wasn't made for goodness sakes, the players actually played for DT!!!!

[b:34d421dda5]This later trade is valid as it is listed above [/b:34d421dda5] The earlier one is not. Thatcher and Kuo belonged to DT. But, since Oliver was not listed as a keeper or in this trade it can be assumed he was dropped as were any others not listed under drops and keepers.

[Spider 67]

Round 2 - Pick anytime:

30. Aray0113 -
44. ShakeyBoomer (Repick) -
47. Geoff Brookes (from Detroit Tigers) -

Round 3 (April 17)

49. The Turtle (From Mbertolli) 10:00-10:30 am - Jerry Sands OF LAD (proxy)
50. Derfs 10:30-11:00 am - Juan Nicasio SP COL
51. Thisisdan 11:00-11:30 am - Cliff Pennington SS
52. Buzz 11:30-12:00 pm - Anthony Swarzak , Pitcher, Minn.
53. NHSteven 12:00-12:30 pm - Jose Constanza OF ATL

54. Aray0113 12:30-1:00 pm

55. SJKorte 1:00-1:30 pm - Jim Johnson RP BAL

56. TheChamp87 1:30-2:00pm
57. AZPanthers 2:00-2:30 pm - George Kottaras C MIL
58. Geoff Brookes 2:30-3:00 pm
59. Blackjack 3:00-3:30 pm
60. Boblues41 3:30-4:00 pm
61. Calbatross 4:00-4:30 pm
62. Spider67 4:30-5:00 pm - Scott Sizemore, 3B OAK
63. Joker 5:00-5:30 pm - Derrek Lee, 1B PIT (proxy)
64. Rburgh 5:30-6:00 pm
65. Apollo16 6:00-6:30 pm
66. The Turtle 6:30-7:00 pm
67. Cubit 7:00-7:30 pm
68. ShakeyBoomer 7:30-8:00 pm
69. Ed1447 8:00-8:30 pm
70. Page2 8:30-9:00 pm
71. Detroit-Tigers 9:00-9:30 pm
72. CATom 9:30 - 10:00 pm

[calbatross]

[quote:db5902a926="blackjack57"][quote:db5902a926="calbatross"]I do not see where derfs owned Christhian Martinez... he was available in my workbook, and I have been keeping it up to date. is there any reference to back up derfs ownership of Martinez?

derfs drafted a CARLOS Martinez in the prospects draft.[/quote:db5902a926]

ed drafted Christian Martinez in the 2nd rd, he is correctly listed on ed's roster. Carlos Martinez is listed on derf's prospect roster. I am going to have aliens kidnap one of the C. Martinez's so there is no more confusion. EDIT- just saw Ed's repick, why the repick? Was there confusion about Ch. Martinez? Unless Turtle rules otherwise valid picks are final so Ed should keep Ch. Martinez.

CATom- Oswalt is back on your roster.

I will update the googledoc in a hour or so, need to walk the dog, work out, do some work homework, pick up kid from school, and take several headache relievers.[/b][/quote:db5902a926]

Ed initially selected Chr. Martinez; Spider posted that ed should repick, thinking Chr. Martinez was already selected. Ed repicked (Cishek), then I identified the possible confusion and Ed reverted to his original pick of Chr. Martinez. All worked out, it's all good. Unless someone else comes out of the woodwork and claims that they own Chr. Martinez, but I don't see it happening :roll:

[calbatross]

[quote:32df2a397d]This later trade is valid as it is listed above The earlier one is not. Thatcher and Kuo belonged to DT. But, since Oliver was not listed as a keeper or in this trade it can be assumed he was dropped as were any others not listed under drops and keepers. [/quote:32df2a397d]

So, since Oliver is unrostered, then Shakey's selection of him should be considered valid? I will assume so and post my pick shortly.

EDIT - I also see in the Drops thread where Geoff listed all 20 of his keepers and there was no Oliver. So the Oliver matter should be resolved now...

[Spider 67]

[quote:5a77f294e9]Ed initially selected Chr. Martinez; Spider posted that ed should repick, thinking Chr. Martinez was already selected. Ed repicked (Cishek), then I identified the possible confusion and Ed reverted to his original pick of Chr. Martinez. All worked out, it's all good. Unless someone else comes out of the woodwork and claims that they own Chr. Martinez, but I don't see it happening[/quote:5a77f294e9]

My bad on that one. I managed to screw up two leagues with the same assumption.