[quote:66a7de5c29="socalchiro"]When a person (ANY person) lives in a 30,000 sq. ft. house and is selling an apartment for $18 million, does this sound grossly UNDER-paid?[/quote:66a7de5c29]
I agree with Adrian--totally not relevant. It also illustrates what the real issue is at the core--this is not really about baseball.
That's part of the interesting thing about him--because no one has these conversations about Mo for instance, even though he attributes his cutter's effectiveness to God.
Just doesn't draw the bipolar ire.
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by Mr Baseball World » Wed Apr 25, 2012 12:01 am
Any true Yankee fan knows that Mariano's cutter is attributed to........Jeter. Mariano must be a hater too. :P
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by Outta Leftfield » Wed Apr 25, 2012 6:27 am
I personally wouldn't call Jeter overpaid or underpaid. He's making what he can get, which as latorrer says, is what we all do.
According to baseball-reference.com, Jeter made $14,729,364 in 2011 and Mo Rivera made $14,911,700--pretty much the same (though it's worth noting in passing that were saying that $182,000 is chump change--in this context).
Nobody seems to worry for a second what Mo makes, but Jeter's salary is subject for heated discussion. The fact that there [i:9e94ea3688]is[/i:9e94ea3688] a discussion seems to me more significant, or at least more interesting, than the question of whether he's over or under paid. This tells us that Jeter is a lightning rod.
Back in the day, everyone talked about Reggie's salary, and nobody talked about Munson or Guidry's salary. Reggie was a lighning rod too. Which is interesting, since they're such different people. Certainly Jeter has never called himself "the straw that stirred the drink."
According to baseball-reference.com, Jeter made $14,729,364 in 2011 and Mo Rivera made $14,911,700--pretty much the same (though it's worth noting in passing that were saying that $182,000 is chump change--in this context).
Nobody seems to worry for a second what Mo makes, but Jeter's salary is subject for heated discussion. The fact that there [i:9e94ea3688]is[/i:9e94ea3688] a discussion seems to me more significant, or at least more interesting, than the question of whether he's over or under paid. This tells us that Jeter is a lightning rod.
Back in the day, everyone talked about Reggie's salary, and nobody talked about Munson or Guidry's salary. Reggie was a lighning rod too. Which is interesting, since they're such different people. Certainly Jeter has never called himself "the straw that stirred the drink."
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by macnole » Fri Apr 27, 2012 11:37 pm
you're absolutely right on that one.
In other news...
[i:f59c3a583d]Derek Jeter's 15-game hitting streak ended on Friday night, but The Captain still delivered.
Jeter, who went 0-for-4, walked with one out in the bottom of the ninth inning, went first to third on a wild pitch and scored the walk-off run on a passed ball as the Yankees came back to beat the Tigers 7-6 at the Stadium.[/i:f59c3a583d]
the horse looked like it was whimpering a bit, so i beat it again.
:P
In other news...
[i:f59c3a583d]Derek Jeter's 15-game hitting streak ended on Friday night, but The Captain still delivered.
Jeter, who went 0-for-4, walked with one out in the bottom of the ninth inning, went first to third on a wild pitch and scored the walk-off run on a passed ball as the Yankees came back to beat the Tigers 7-6 at the Stadium.[/i:f59c3a583d]
the horse looked like it was whimpering a bit, so i beat it again.
:P
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by JEROMEWILKINS » Tue May 01, 2012 11:24 pm
All you can say about Jeter is....with the embarrasment of having Ozzie Smith , Rizzuto and Reese in the Hall of Fame...then Jeter is a first ballot unanimous choice for the Hall. Rizzuto...good player but not HOF ..Reese the same thing...Ozzie half a player.... great fielder and hit for about 25% of his career and i use the phrase "hit' very loosely.
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by Valen » Tue May 01, 2012 11:39 pm
My disdain for Jeter has little to do with him. It is the yankee fans spouting 5 rings as if that alone was the reasons yankees won those. No credit to teammates. When boston came from 3-0 deficit a few years back to advance in playoffs and send yankees home Jeter threw his teammates under the bus in a tv interview.
When yankees signed Arod Jeter should have recognized who was the better
SS as Hanley did and made the change to third. Instead he was content to be the secong best shortstop in they yankees.
When yankees signed Arod Jeter should have recognized who was the better
SS as Hanley did and made the change to third. Instead he was content to be the secong best shortstop in they yankees.
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by PotKettleBlack » Wed May 02, 2012 2:00 pm
[quote:f373ce42ea="Valen"]My disdain for Jeter has little to do with him. It is the yankee fans spouting 5 rings as if that alone was the reasons yankees won those. No credit to teammates. When boston came from 3-0 deficit a few years back to advance in playoffs and send yankees home Jeter threw his teammates under the bus in a tv interview.
When yankees signed Arod Jeter should have recognized who was the better
SS as Hanley did and made the change to third. Instead he was content to be the secong best shortstop in they yankees.[/quote:f373ce42ea]
Hater.
I dismiss the 5 rings as rings are largely a team achievement. I also remove the Flip from consideration and the Jeffery Maier home run.
On regular season, he is 7th all time in SS WAR. 7th all time. And we can look at the 6 guys ahead of them, and take out two for playing in the deadball era, an era that we really cannot compare to the modern era. Oh, and we can dismiss A-rod and Yount too for playing half their careers off of short. So, of the all time shortstops who spent 75% or more of their careers at short, Jeter is #3.
Jeter responded to his first season with ARod at third with a 10 error season. It's not like he was chopped liver at that point in time. And given ARod's reduced mobility over the years, THE ORGANIZATION was correct to keep Jeter on short and move ARod to third.
When yankees signed Arod Jeter should have recognized who was the better
SS as Hanley did and made the change to third. Instead he was content to be the secong best shortstop in they yankees.[/quote:f373ce42ea]
Hater.
I dismiss the 5 rings as rings are largely a team achievement. I also remove the Flip from consideration and the Jeffery Maier home run.
On regular season, he is 7th all time in SS WAR. 7th all time. And we can look at the 6 guys ahead of them, and take out two for playing in the deadball era, an era that we really cannot compare to the modern era. Oh, and we can dismiss A-rod and Yount too for playing half their careers off of short. So, of the all time shortstops who spent 75% or more of their careers at short, Jeter is #3.
Jeter responded to his first season with ARod at third with a 10 error season. It's not like he was chopped liver at that point in time. And given ARod's reduced mobility over the years, THE ORGANIZATION was correct to keep Jeter on short and move ARod to third.
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by george barnard » Thu May 03, 2012 8:49 am
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Stop Beating Me!!!!
Stop Beating Me!!!!
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