A more poignant example.
It was clear, as shown statistically, that black employees in our larger organization were being reprimanded at a higher rate than non-black employees.
There were simple incorrect conclusions to be drawn, but the most interesting dynamic was there was also a lack of appropriate performance feedback and interim corrective measures taken with the black employees vs the white employees. Cultural subtleties.
Many of the non-black supervisors felt uncomfortable addressing and mentoring their black subordinates in the name of their cultural individuality and fear of being labeled...and so when someone started drifting off course--they never received the mentorship that all of us need.
Why? Because of the non-black supervisors being subtle instead of boldly sticking with color-blind core values. As a result, the black subordinates wouldn't get a course correction until they either committed a crime or their performance was so far off the need that they were no longer competitive. That wasn't fair to them.
Black supervisors didn't have the same problem.
Until we get out of the passive-aggressive realm of subtlety, situations like the above will continue to happen. Thus, until we judge BCBs words on their merit alone, versus adding polite indeterminate meanings that we perceive, we trudge on and away from the vision MLK pushed forward.
I won't say another word. I know nev wants that. Have it.
He may be "colorful" and "eccentric" ...
by Salty » Sat May 12, 2012 12:23 am
[quote:f7086d99c3="macnole"]A more poignant example.
It was clear, as shown statistically, that black employees in our larger organization were being reprimanded at a higher rate than non-black employees.
There were simple incorrect conclusions to be drawn, but the most interesting dynamic was there was also a lack of appropriate performance feedback and interim corrective measures taken with the black employees vs the white employees. Cultural subtleties.
Many of the non-black supervisors felt uncomfortable addressing and mentoring their black subordinates in the name of their cultural individuality and fear of being labeled...and so when someone started drifting off course--they never received the mentorship that all of us need.
Why? Because of the non-black supervisors being subtle instead of boldly sticking with color-blind core values. As a result, the black subordinates wouldn't get a course correction until they either committed a crime or their performance was so far off the need that they were no longer competitive. That wasn't fair to them.
Black supervisors didn't have the same problem.
Until we get out of the passive-aggressive realm of subtlety, situations like the above will continue to happen. Thus, until we judge BCBs words on their merit alone, versus adding polite indeterminate meanings that we perceive, we trudge on and away from the vision MLK pushed forward.
I won't say another word. I know nev wants that. Have it.[/quote:f7086d99c3]
Mac-
This makes it sound like you work in a correctional facility.
Which Im thinking is not likely the case.
It was clear, as shown statistically, that black employees in our larger organization were being reprimanded at a higher rate than non-black employees.
There were simple incorrect conclusions to be drawn, but the most interesting dynamic was there was also a lack of appropriate performance feedback and interim corrective measures taken with the black employees vs the white employees. Cultural subtleties.
Many of the non-black supervisors felt uncomfortable addressing and mentoring their black subordinates in the name of their cultural individuality and fear of being labeled...and so when someone started drifting off course--they never received the mentorship that all of us need.
Why? Because of the non-black supervisors being subtle instead of boldly sticking with color-blind core values. As a result, the black subordinates wouldn't get a course correction until they either committed a crime or their performance was so far off the need that they were no longer competitive. That wasn't fair to them.
Black supervisors didn't have the same problem.
Until we get out of the passive-aggressive realm of subtlety, situations like the above will continue to happen. Thus, until we judge BCBs words on their merit alone, versus adding polite indeterminate meanings that we perceive, we trudge on and away from the vision MLK pushed forward.
I won't say another word. I know nev wants that. Have it.[/quote:f7086d99c3]
Mac-
This makes it sound like you work in a correctional facility.
Which Im thinking is not likely the case.
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by nevdully's » Sat May 12, 2012 12:34 am
No no no...type on...if I was smarter I'd better articulate my position...You like to paint everyone with a broad brush, my business partner too, and neither of you realize it because you know just enough to sound good but do more harm than anything else.. my partner gave out some advice a few weeks ago...You know the whole "men are from mars women from venus type crap"...to our accountant going through a tough divorce...
my partner said "first of all Rich you gotta understand men and women think differently"
I interrupted and asked "then how does a lesbian think"....
I mean how can anybody pay attention to anyone that paints a billion type people, women, men, minorities with the same brush...
my partner said "first of all Rich you gotta understand men and women think differently"
I interrupted and asked "then how does a lesbian think"....
I mean how can anybody pay attention to anyone that paints a billion type people, women, men, minorities with the same brush...
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by nevdully's » Sat May 12, 2012 8:26 am
No. and no one substantiated his claim that he pitched high either. Funny how we pick and choose what we wanna believe.
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by supertyphoon » Sat May 12, 2012 9:11 am
I think Jim Rice would be a very credible source. What do other black ballplayers on the Red Sox (Easler, Henderson, Baylor, Burks) have to say about Boggs?
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by nevdully's » Sat May 12, 2012 10:25 am
Color me confused but couldn't white players also have an opinion on Boggs being a racist? Or is this just more of our blind eye towards how pervasive our racism really is?
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by Salty » Sat May 12, 2012 1:17 pm
[quote:9ac902358c="nevdully's"]Color me confused but couldn't white players also have an opinion on Boggs being a racist? Or is this just more of our blind eye towards how pervasive our racism really is?[/quote:9ac902358c]
Yup.
Actually, more likely the case, since a person would more likely feel its okay to say such things to a person of similar race as themselves- now weather they would recognize it as such- who knows?
Yup.
Actually, more likely the case, since a person would more likely feel its okay to say such things to a person of similar race as themselves- now weather they would recognize it as such- who knows?
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by supertyphoon » Sat May 12, 2012 6:12 pm
I'd like to know if Boggs used the same derogatory term towards the other black players on the team, in the way Dennis claims it was directed at him. Any of his other teammates could verify whether Wade used racial epithets when referring to blacks in general, but Boyd claims it was a personal attack.
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by PJ Axelsson » Sat May 12, 2012 8:40 pm
Any news on someone stepping up to back the Can? Black or white? Yellow or green? Player or writer? Anyone? Anything? This is starting to go stale...
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