Strat-O-Matic Baseball 1969

[bernieh]

[b:e7b3af6ab4]Now playing: Strat-O-Matic Baseball 1969[/b:e7b3af6ab4]

http://fantasygames.sportingnews.com/baseball/stratomatic/1969/

While Earl Weaver's Orioles tore the American League apart with 109 wins, a star-filled Cub squad wilted in the heat and dropped a 9 1/2 game lead to the Miracle Mets. Relive the glory days of these legendary teams and more, and set your strawberry alarm clock back to the summer of '69. Afro pick not included.

No fewer than [i:e7b3af6ab4]15[/i:e7b3af6ab4] 20-game winners ruled the Majors, including greats like Bob Gibson, Juan Marichal and Tom Terrific. Harmon Killebrew led the league with 49 homers and Frank Howard makes his SOM Online debut with his 48 jacks. Oh, and the Seattle Pilots!

Some notable rules differences from previous games:
- Auto leagues are by default non-DH
- Closer rule is not in effect
- Minimum pitchers on your in-season roster is now 9
- Minimum players on your in-season roster is now 24

I'll work on getting a making an Excel spreadsheet available with all player salaries for ease of reference.

Enjoy the summer of '69!
Bernie H.


Edit: An Excel spreadsheet with the player pool and prices is now available at:
http://fantasygames.sportingnews.com/images/baseball/stratomatic/1969/som_salaries_1969.xls

[geekor]

Bernie...

can you look into Jim Roland?

He should be a starter also (which will make his price go up). His card even says [b:874260fc40]starter(7)[/b:874260fc40] on it. Can you look into this?

[geekor]

actually there are quite a few sp/rp that are rated as Rp's only? It seems as though TSN put in a GS minimum to get a SP rating? Bernie, is there a reason for this? I've found alreayd 6 SP/RP's that are RP only :x

[childsmwc]

Geekor the price of these players is as a reliever only (these guys would be incredible values if they could be used as a starter). My guess is that to find a balance they were kept in the set, but can not be used as starters in the online game. I think its a fair trade to maintain some realism to the game.

Bbrool

[geekor]

Bbrool, I understand that point, but I think it is utter BS.

Look the cards were made of of the season. By changing the cards (which is what they have done by removing the S rating and pricing them as RP only) they are changing the entire season. They need to put these pitchers as S/RP and then re-price them accordingly.

If not change some of the RP only to S/RP in the 05 game, cause quite frankly there isn't enough good pitching in that year. Sounds stupid don't it, but that is exactly what they've done here. Who cares of there are not enough cheap RP's otherwise. Too bad then people will have to adjust to THAT year. that is why each year/era is different. That's what makes it fun to play.

I will not by another 69 team (hell I may ask for a refund on my 1st) until that is rectified.

[childsmwc]

Geekor,

By changing the cards (which is what they have done by removing the S rating and pricing them as RP only) they are changing the entire season.

I completely disagree with this statement. By forcing these guys to be used as starters (the pricing structure forces this because starters must be priced higher than a relief pitcher) distorts the season far worse than forcing them to be relievers only. Roland threw 3 games as a starter, Carroll 4, etc. etc. It would be great if pitchers could be priced with two prices depending on how they will be used during our regular season.

However, since that isn't the case TSN effectively has to make a call on every pitcher on how they should be priced (and therefore used). If you understand that fundamental decision point, then TSN made the right call and made these players relievers, since that was there primary use in 1969. To price them as a starter in the online game forces the community to utilize them as a starter, which was not these players primary function in 1969. It also artifically depletes the relief pool by effectively excluding anyone that started a game during the season.

This is in no way shape or form the arbitrary decision you describe by changing a Reliever to a starter just because 2005 needs more starters.

Again if you pricing structure is different for starters and relievers (which we all know to be the case) then a call must be made to price every pitcher under one model or the other. Since the reliever model produces lower salaries you have to prevent these pitchers from being used in a starting role.

I know their card is rated to start, but I think TSN made the right call and priced these guys as relievers.

Bbrool[/quote]

[bernieh]

Bbrool is right. By making the changes, we're actually [i:13de74f170]preserving[/i:13de74f170] the integrity of the season by encouraging the most realistic use of these pitchers. In case you haven't noticed, we've been "changing" the card sets since the very first SOM Online game (2001 season), by removing "fluke" cards. We're only trying to curtail unrealistic results caused by non-intended use of players and their abilities.

[visick]

"We're only trying to curtail unrealistic results caused by non-intended use of players and their abilities."

Great point Bernie then...

Why not turn off the injuries on a player when he's missed as many games as he did during the season?

I've had it happen before in the leagues. If a player only missed say 3 games during the season, why should he miss more than 3 in Strat?

What should happen is the injury should be turned off when a player reaches his # of games lost. For example in ATG II, I had Goose Goslin go down 4 times (3 games each) in 1 season. He lost 12 games! He didn't lose that many during his season...

[geekor]

Bernie, quite frankly my dear I don't give a damn....

let's look at Jim Roland shall we. Sure he only started 3 games, 2 were complete games though. In fact over 25% of his real life innings pitched were via starting, not relieving. To now say he can't start is ludicrous.

My point is we are no longer playing the 69 season when many cards don't do what they should do. Would that make it an out of whack season compared ot the 200x series. Yes, but that is where the draw was for me. I am too young to play off any memories af that season, as I wans't even born yet, so the only thing going for me is the card data. I was looking towards a real pitchers league, where the Coors type scores would be gone. Now that allure isn't there. When these changes I say F this and don't touch it. It's fine if others like to disillusion themselves.

I feel really bad for those people who have memories of those pitchers coming in to make emergency starts and saving their team, and now not being able to use them as such.

[LARRYLANG]

Got to go with Geekor on this... A few years back replaying the season on the board game Lolich goes down with the big injury and Pat Dobson made all his starts down the stretch and did absolutely fantastic. I am not sure how many real games he started that year but I would like to have had the option to pick him up as a starter. As it is I did get him but only as a reliever. There are more effective relievers available so I'll dump him even though he was one of my top choices