Switch Hitter Cards

Switch Hitter Cards

Postby bleacher_creature » Tue Apr 11, 2006 2:27 pm

Is it me, or does Strat give switch hitters a few less hit chances on their cards due to the switch hitter having the advantage vs the pitcher most of the time. I mean, RH pitchers are better at getting RH batters out and vice versa.

IN SOMO, this is less true, due to the need/desire to carry reverse R and L pitchers to defend against lineup stacking. This is well known, but what I've never seen discussed is whether this practice by SOMO players doesn't devalue S hitters to an extent.

Case 1:

Beltran 2004 card. Most people shied away, because there just weren't enough hits on the card.

Case 2:

Berkman 2005 card. I dumped him in 2 different leagues. I got sick of looking at his sorry-assed "Mendoza-Line" AVG. He has one of those deceptive cards where there is more bold ink than actual results (i.e. splits where it will say [b:15f7b55881]DOUBLE 1-2[/b:15f7b55881] lotta' ink, little results).

Anyone hear me on this? I get hesitant sometimes with using switch hitters. They seem to be a better value on the cheap cards.
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Postby cirills » Tue Apr 11, 2006 2:48 pm

In 2004 I LIVED on SH cards and to the tune of 8 titles.

I think you have just had bad experiences is all.
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Postby geekor » Tue Apr 11, 2006 3:54 pm

strat may give them a few less hit, I've never really looked into it, but Berkman has always been a sold card for me.

Also remember, at least in the TSN version, that HAL does not handle SH and those cheap specialists well, so the SH has the advatage vs them.
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Postby rgimbel » Wed Apr 12, 2006 10:36 am

[quote:a595511acc="geekor"]strat may give them a few less hit, I've never really looked into it, but Berkman has always been a sold card for me.

Also remember, at least in the TSN version, that HAL does not handle SH and those cheap specialists well, so the SH has the advatage vs them.[/quote:a595511acc]


that is what makes switch hitters so valuable hal does not recognize them he will bring switch rp specialists gain no advantage and burn your pen
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Postby bleacher_creature » Wed Apr 12, 2006 11:23 am

[quote:32e908fdfb="rgimbel"][quote:32e908fdfb="geekor"]strat may give them a few less hit, I've never really looked into it, but Berkman has always been a sold card for me.

Also remember, at least in the TSN version, that HAL does not handle SH and those cheap specialists well, so the SH has the advatage vs them.[/quote:32e908fdfb]


that is what makes switch hitters so valuable hal does not recognize them he will bring switch rp specialists gain no advantage and burn your pen[/quote:32e908fdfb]

Can you elaborate or restate this another way? I am kinda' slow.

It seems to me that when I have carried reverse righties or lefties, HAL uses them very effectively against switch hitters. Anyone else experience this?
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Postby geekor » Wed Apr 12, 2006 12:15 pm

meaning that HAL does not see the switch ability. He only see the hitter up there as a L or a R. SO when a pitching change happens, then the hitter turns around. Hal is moronic when it comes to that.

Reverse pitchers obvioulsy are better, but really how many cheap effective ones of those are there?
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Postby PAULMINICUCCI » Thu Apr 13, 2006 2:52 pm

I am not so sure that reverse picthers are all that good for HAL in relief. I think they confuse him. HAL does seem to recognize that reverse hitters should be reversed but I don't know about the pitcher. That is I have noticed that if you have two RH batters up who like RH hitting (like Beltre followed by Sweeney) he seems to know to bring in a LH reliever.

I tried using Alvarez and Lowry in relief in the 2005 deck and he made some mistakes with them in putting them in in certain situations. Like what choice does he make if he has Beltre (a reverse batter) followed by Nevin (traditional)followed by Tino Martinez (a reverse LH). Does he see a RH, followed by a RH, followed by a LH or does he say there are the first is prone to RH followed by two LH prone hitters. I don't know. In the cases I studied with Lowry he often would bring him in against traditional LH hitters. And who has the edge if Lowry faces Beltre? Is Lowry in the driver's seat if the play is the batter's card (that is Beltre does not do as as well against LH picthers), but Lowry is LH even though he likes RH hitters. Or is the picther's card in play (LH pitcher who likes RH hitters)? Does HAL see this and bring in Lowry here?

It would seem that in these double reverse situations the reverse pitcher has the edge. Then there is the switch hitter issue with reverse picthers, where the reverse pitcher always has the edge because the switch-hitter has to follow the rule and bat LH against any RH. It would seem that reverse pitchers should have the edge but I am not sure they do have the edge for HAL.

Anyone track his decision making against reverse picthers?
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