How does this team finish 78-86?

[the icemen]

http://fantasygames.sportingnews.com/baseball/stratomatic/80s/team/team_other.html?user_id=71580&stats=sim

and how can their offense be so anemic in the kingdome?
Parker is a 2L...look at his splits...look at murray...henderson is even..?

so many of the playerts are in their best years...yet nuttin!

this was a frustrating year.

Ice

[seanreflex]

they didn't finish 78-86 ---- they finished 76-86 (unless they played 164 game schedule).

Your team ERA is over 5 .... doesn't usually matter where you play in the 80's ... that will cost you alot of games.

some great hitters, but how many Kingdome teams have great hitters and still suck?

Pitching and defense wins. that's why I have such a low winning pct in this game ... I love hitting :wink:

[Paul5757]

.450 slg vs. RHP probably isn't going to git' 'er done in the Kingdome.

[Outta Leftfield]

I think seanreflex is right about the pitching. You've scored 854 runs, which is pretty good--but there are three teams in your league who have scored more than that, including one that scored an amazing 1117.

Meanwhile, you've give up 890 runs, which is a lot. So, you've given up 36 more runs than you've scored. Bill James's Pythagorean theorem says that maybe you should have won 78 games instead of 76, but your results are basically about where you'd expect, given the run differential.

Anyway, I wouldn't call your offense anaemic. It was good enough to give you a shot at winning even if some players under-performed. But you only spent about 6M on starting pitching and about 3.75 on RP. That's less than 10M total. With most other managers spending between 25M and 35M on pitching, you've got to expect their pitching to be better. And its just plain hard to win with a team ERA of 5.10. You might try giving pitching a bit more attention and cash next time around.... :wink:

[YountFan]

[quote:0a875db35e]You've scored 854 runs, which is pretty good[/quote:0a875db35e]
You better score close to between 900 and 1000 in the Kingdome if you want to win because unless you're pitching Boston #21 everyday the other team will score near 900 or more.

But the real downfall is the sub .340 OBP. You have to get on base in the kingdome too!

[the icemen]

I should have stated that my teams pitching could not have a starter with an average ERA below 4 for their combined 5 years...and the bullpen could not have a pitcher below 3.75. So my pitching was limited by the Poison Pill rule I had...however...look at the years my pitchers had...they were almost all on their best cards....I am pointing out that their ERA should have been far below 5.10

In addition look at my hitters and what cards they were on...almost all on their best yet they stunk...

I would normally spend around 30-35 million on pitching in a non-theme league. This team I think is an anomally for not scoring more and allowing less runs based on the cards i drew.

Ice

[yak1407]

ERA is a useless stat.
I have a Kingdome team now where Gott and Guante both have 2.60 ERAs. Guante has a WHIP under 1 whereas Gott's is almost 2.
That same team is #1 in offence, in the middle of pack in pitching (which should be fairly good for the kingdome) but has a 27-27 record. Fortunately, I'm in first three games up and the best record in the league is only 32-22,which means I'm only 5 games back.
However, it looks like your pitchers had some pretty good WHIPs.
Can't seem to see what your home and away splits were like. It might provide a bit of an answer.
But stats are stats. Wins and losses count and it could simply be the roll of the dice. One hit, one walk, and a home run can translate into three runs, if they happen within five batters with the last batter hitting the home run, or it can count for one run in the same stretch if the first batter hits the home run.

[Outta Leftfield]

[quote:884cd300e0="the icemen"]

I would normally spend around 30-35 million on pitching in a non-theme league. This team I think is an anomally for not scoring more and allowing less runs based on the cards i drew.

Ice[/quote:884cd300e0]

Sorry--didn't realize it was a theme league. Seems like you had an especially nasty poison pill. It's hard to hit enough to overcome that pitching liability.

[quote:884cd300e0]ERA is a useless stat. [/quote:884cd300e0]
I'm not sure ERA is truly useless. Sometimes it's misleading--an ERA might be higher or lower than it should be based on the pitcher's HR and WHIP. But ultimately Runs Allowed on a team level is vital and ERA is one indicator of that success. Still, I tend to look at Runs Allowed for an overall evaluation of a team's defense.

Interestingly, this team did succeed in hitting a lot more HR than it allowed--hit 291 HR and allowed 212. That's an edge of 79--almost half a HR per game.... a big edge. It also had a smaller edge in walks, 634 received to 621 allowed. Not much difference, there, but still advantage to the home team. The real downfall is in BA--.259 for the offense, while the pitchers allowed .285. Put in terms of raw hits, the team gave up 171 more hits than it got.

In my own experience it takes a major advantage in two or more of the big categories (HR, BB, BA, and--in my opinion--errors) to make a team a contender. The error number looks pretty good. If the hitters had managed to hit .285, to keep pace with what their pitchers gave up, then the big edge in HR probably would have swung the margin in the home team's favor. To get the team to .285, I guess that would mean that Gorman, Rickey, Parker, Horner, Kruk and Murray would all have had to hit for much higher BA than they did. To reach the balance point of 171 extra hits, they would have to average almost thirty hits more per season than they actually got. Not impossible, but that's a lot of hits.