NLD 13 Draft thread

[ArrylT]

Has anyone seen jamesgang?? I havent heard from him at least a week and he is in a keeper league I am running.

[Semper Gumby]

did you pull Mark Prior with this line score:

M.Prior 6 1/3 2 1 1 1 7 0 90 2.79


[quote:acf93bad82]*** TOP OF INNING 7 ***
0 L.Berkman 1 Ground Out b-0
1 Y.Molina 6 Walk b-1
SUBSTITUTE P - David Riske
1 1 G.Atkins 6 Force Play 1-o b-1
2 1 P.Burrell 4 Single 1-2 b-1
2 12 J.Encarnacion 2 Single 2-H 1-2 b-1
2 12 B.Ausmus 6 HBP 2-3 1-2 b-1
SUBSTITUTE P - Shigetoshi Hasegawa
2 123 O.Vizquel 4 Walk 3-H 2-3 1-2 b-1
2 123 G.Sizemore 6 Single 3-H 2-H 1-3 b-2
2 23 J.Castro 1 Ground Out b-0[/quote:acf93bad82]


But you thought enough of Cliff Lee's ability to allow him to pitch like this:

C.Lee WIN(1-0) 6 1/3 9 1 1 1 2 0 109 3.94


[b:acf93bad82]I'm lost?[/b:acf93bad82]

Slow hook. Conservative relief settings.

What the f*ck?

This game has gone from fun to downright random acts of silliness.

Why bother have any settings if HAL just does what the hell it wants and when it wants.

[ArrylT]

I rarely use any of the personalized settings, simply because it is really hard for us to understand HALs logic. It may be bizarre twisted logic, but there is a rational reason for his decisions out there somewhere ... maybe Captain Picard or Kirk will find it on one of their space explorations. :)

[joethejet]

Boy, our pen is just killing us we're 10 for 18. (At least we're not as bad as Beach!)

Meanwhile our erstwhile Division-mate Niners has Turnbow ( :!: ) who's a perfect 15-15. :roll: and he's 18-21 overall. Yeesh. Give me a break.

Hopefully *that* worm will turn.

Jet

[superflymacdaddyjuice]

Jet,

trust me i feel your pain. My pen which i thought was a strength is 11-21. If you discount Rhodes who has been an all-star i drop to 5 for 16.

While i am at it, what is with Damon having 8 gidp already. he has hardly any DP on his card. He and the other "batter" at the top of my order Giles are KILLING me.

[MARKHUARD]

I'm in this group, too, as Joe noted above. I drafted five RPs with WHIPs at 1.09 or less. Only one currently sports a WHIP under 1.44. :x

Mariano Rivera is carded at 0.87 and is nearly double that at 1.59. Not surprisingly, my first round draft pick is 12th and dead last in the league in save percentage.

The current Pittsburgh Pirates look like aces compared to my arson squad of a pitching staff! Yikes! What a disaster! :!: :!: :!:

[Ninersphan]

[quote:63e62b0f09]Meanwhile our erstwhile Division-mate Niners has Turnbow ( :!: )[/quote:63e62b0f09]

What does this mean, that you wanted Turnbow yourself, or that he's no good???

One thing I really like about him, he induces groundballs. While Mariano gets K's he isn't as effective at getting the grounder as Turnbow. That MAY have something to do with his success.


[quote:63e62b0f09]Hopefully *that* worm will turn. [/quote:63e62b0f09]

guess it depends on where you sit :wink:

I will say this, a couple of you mentioning your poor performance of your pen have 5 man bullpens. I have a 6 man and try to limit Turnbow to just save situations. Don't know it that has anything to do with it, but thought I'd throw it out there. I know beach has a 6 man, but he plays in Coors and his division, has parks that favor hitters a little bit more than the central.

Of course I may just be throwing darts at a board, hell my winning percentage in this league certianly suggests I have no idea what the hell I'm doing, so I'mmprobably just getting lucky dice rolls.

[Jeepdriver]

One thing I'm hearing in some of the above posts is a comparison to "real life stats" and "SOM stats". I learned a long time ago performance in SOM is a lot different than what they'll do here. (which I know yall know that already)

Regarding Beach's pen, he has 4 guys at a salary of 4.5M or more. Even in an $100M league, my opinion is that's too much $$ in the pen. I would think you could get just as an effective pen in Coors for far less dollars, and use the savings to get more offense. I say that without looking at any league stats.

Meanwhile, the East, which is comprised of the four worst records from the last NLD, are certainly holding up their end this go round. The East is a pretty tough division.

And a sidenote: Giles has absolutely sucked on the teams I've had him on this year. He doesn't come close to that $8M price tag.

[Semper Gumby]

[quote:732cb60979]One thing I really like about him, he induces groundballs[/quote:732cb60979]

I'd attribute Turnbow's success more to his card's lights out effect on RHBs than his 11 ground ball double play chances DPs as well as to dice rolls. Of course, you're investing a significant amount of money in one player to perform 2 innings per series, at best.

Otherwise, I have / had several RPs that enjoyed as many or more DP chances and still did worse on average even in my dead ball era park.

Riske - 12 / 10
Thompson - 12 / 12
Wickman - 12 / 12
Politte - 7 / 7

If anything, TSN's version of the CD-ROM logic is a tad off since my return. I've noticed more illogical events with HAL (whether he had 5 or 6 RPs to work) playing God in the bullpen. My settings have been very conservative and I still have HAL pulling Billy Wagner after facing two batters or working Cliff Lee longer than Prior with worse stats.

If HAL senses that the LH Wagner ought not to pitch to RHBs, then why is Wagner's price above $6m?

At least with the CD-ROM version, you can code the events so your bullpen responds to a give set of circumstances the same way assuming the relievers aren't over worked. We can't have that in TSN but we should still understand the parameters so we can be less surprised when it happens.

Oddly, in one of my 80s leagues - one owner has a R-2 RP toss 4 innings or more at least 5 or 6 times in the past two weeks. Hell, he had this same pitcher toss 8 innings last week.

So, the coding needs to be reviewed or we just need deal with it and smile when it happens.

[Ninersphan]

Hey semp, if you look in the suggestions thread, bernie has said they are looking at the logic coding maybe soem of these things will be resolved in the near future.