A question about Catcher range

A question about Catcher range

Postby ANDYCOCHRANE » Sat Apr 29, 2006 7:47 am

What actual difference does having a 3 range catcher make? Is it just a no-no, or is the more important factor his arm? I usually always have a 2 or better range at catcher but was just wondering if it was that important.
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Postby Mean Dean » Sun Apr 30, 2006 12:38 pm

Catcher range is not very important at all. Arm, PB and T ratings are all more important. Catcher range is actually tied to pitchers' WP ratings. All that a bad-range catcher does, in terms of the game mechanics, is test the pitcher's WP ratings more often. So if your pitchers' WP ratings are low, then it really is not a concern at all. If your WP ratings are high, then bad catchers' range will burn you more frequently, but the whole thing doesn't come up that often, so it just is not really a big deal.
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Postby wavygravy2k » Sun Apr 30, 2006 11:42 pm

I think catcher range a factor when blocking the plate after a throw from an outfielder.
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Postby Mean Dean » Mon May 01, 2006 12:23 am

You're right! I forgot about that. I still don't think it is as important as any of the other aspects of catchers' fielding, but that does even the scales a bit.
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Postby ANDYCOCHRANE » Mon May 01, 2006 1:53 pm

So having a 3 range catcher instead of a 2 range one is less of a problem than having 3 in CF or SS?
Who would you rather have: a 3(-2)e4 catcher or a 2(0)e 4 catcher in a pitcher's park?
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Postby Mean Dean » Mon May 01, 2006 4:25 pm

[quote:e8cf2f510b]So having a 3 range catcher instead of a 2 range one is less of a problem than having 3 in CF or SS?[/quote:e8cf2f510b]Absolutely no comparison.[quote:e8cf2f510b]Who would you rather have: a 3(-2)e4 catcher or a 2(0)e 4 catcher in a pitcher's park?[/quote:e8cf2f510b]The former.
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Postby ANDYCOCHRANE » Tue May 02, 2006 7:44 am

So let me get this right. Having a 3 range catcher is acceptable, provided he has a good arm? So it isn't always the case that a 2 range catcher is essential. Wow. I just always assumed that a 3 at catcher was a no-no and consequently have probably missed out on better offensive 3 range catchers in order to get a 2.
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Postby maligned » Tue May 02, 2006 10:18 am

That's right. The range of a catcher ultimately has very little effect on the OBP of the opposing team like the range of other positions does. Catchers' ranges will only be tested about 9 times in 1000 plays, and even then is usually only an issue if someone is on base with a chance to advance.
By comparison the range of a shortstop will be tested about 30 times per 1000 plays and ALWAYS has an effect on OBP. A shortstop-1 can keep opponents' OBP 10 points lower than a shortstop-3. That's why even a light-hitting guy like Jack Wilson is so valuable. A 10-point difference in an entire team's OBP is equivalent to an individual hitter's OBP difference of 90 (since he only comprises roughly 1/9 of an offense). Give me a .350 OBP Catcher-3 over a .300 OBP catcher-1 and a .300 OBP shortstop-1 over a .350 OBP shortstop-3 any day of the week.
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Postby ANDYCOCHRANE » Tue May 02, 2006 10:30 am

Thanks for all the useful advice guys. It has helped change a few assumptions I had. I always want good D at SS and 2B but thought a 3 at C was a no-no, regardless of arm strength.
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