Can HAL change your lineup for no reason?

[the icemen]

In game 2 of my series last night HAL decides to start Randy Ready over Kirk Gibson who was listed as my starting rf'er. He started game 1 of the series as he should. In game 2 HAL moved Kemp to RF and put Ready in LF vs a righty and removed Gibson...Ready gets a 10 game injury!!!!!!!
Game 3 Gibson is back out in rf and kemp is in left...damage is done. All 3 games of the series were against rhp'ers and there was no injury in Game 1 requiring HAL to make maneuvers as I can see.

Is this supposed to happen? Why do we put instructions in?

Ice

[Sykes25]

Let's see 3 boxscores please. Somebody else was played out of position besides Ready and Gibson.

[Jablowmi]

did you have injuries to other players? sometimes, injuries force Hal's hand.

[the icemen]

This lineup ran as I had posted vs RHP GAME 1

Camels AB R H RBI AVG ...... Hitless Wonders AB R H RBI AVG
T.Fernandez SS 5 0 1 0 .321 ...... J.Oquendo 2B 3 0 1 0 .293
G.Perry 1B 4 0 0 0 .161 ..... D.Walling DH 4 0 0 0 .283
D.Evans RF 5 0 1 0 .322 ..... R.Carew 1B 4 0 1 0 .338
K.Puckett CF 5 1 1 0 .393 ..... S.Kemp LF 4 0 2 0 .282
B.Downing LF 3 0 1 0 .278 ..... L.Parrish 3B 4 0 0 0 .256
K.Mitchell DH 3 2 2 1 .271..... R.Yount SS 4 0 0 0 .226
W.Gross 3B 4 0 1 0 .268 ..... J.Nolan C 4 1 1 0 .286
A-S.Buechele 3B 0 0 0 0 .191 ..... D.Martinez CF 4 0 1 0 .200
O.Virgil C 3 0 2 1 .267 ..... K.Gibson RF 4 0 2 0 .206
B-D.Berryhill C 0 0 0 0 .259
M.Trillo 2B 4 0 1 1 .182
-- -- -- --- -- -- -- ---
Totals 36 3 10 3 Totals 35 1 8 0

A-Subbed Defensively (3B) For Gross In 8th Inning
B-Subbed Defensively (C ) For Virgil In 8th Inning

Camels.......... 0 1 0 1 0 0 1 0 0 - 3 10 1
Hitless Wonders. 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 - 1 8 0

Camels IP H R ER BB SO HR PC ERA
B.Wegman WIN(7-2) 7 1/3 7 1 0 1 8 0 118 3.83
A.McGaffigan SAVE(9th) 1 2/3 1 0 0 0 2 0 19 3.19
Totals 9 8 1 0 1 10 0

Hitless Wonders IP H R ER BB SO HR PC ERA
J.Andujar LOSS(6-9) 7 10 3 3 5 2 0 130 4.60
G.Gossage 2 0 0 0 1 1 0 27 3.94
Totals 9 10 3 3 6 3 0

GAME 2

Camels AB R H RBI AVG ..... Hitless Wonders AB R H RBI AVG
T.Fernandez SS 5 0 0 0 .316..... J.Oquendo 2B 5 0 3 0 .300
G.Perry 1B 4 0 0 0 .143 ..... D.Walling DH 4 2 2 0 .297
D.Evans RF 3 1 0 0 .318..... R.Carew 1B 5 2 5 0 .350
K.Puckett CF 4 0 2 0 .394..... S.Kemp RF 4 1 1 3 .281
B.Downing LF 2 1 1 1 .282 ..... L.Parrish 3B 4 1 3 3 .263
K.Mitchell DH 4 0 2 0 .274 ..... R.Yount SS 4 0 1 1 .226
W.Gross 3B 2 0 1 0 .274..... J.Nolan C 3 0 1 0 .290
O.Virgil C 3 0 0 0 .258 ..... D.Martinez CF 3 0 0 0 .174
M.Trillo 2B 3 0 1 1 .214 ..... R.Ready LF 2 1 0 0 .327
B-L.Durham PH 1 0 0 0 .276..... A-G.Luzinski LF 1 0 0 0 .223
-- -- -- --- -- -- -- ---
Totals 31 2 7 2 Totals 35 7 16 7

A-Subbed Defensively (LF) For Ready In 6th Inning
B-Pinch Hit For Trillo In 9th Inning

INJURY: Randy Ready INJURED (for 10 more games) in 5th inning

Camels.......... 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 1 0 - 2 7 0
Hitless Wonders. 0 1 2 1 0 3 0 0 - 7 16 0

Camels IP H R ER BB SO HR PC ERA
J.Deleon LOSS(8-7) 4 11 4 4 5 2 1 96 4.83
S.Bedrosian 1 1/3 3 3 3 0 1 0 30 4.03
M.Thurmond 1 2/3 1 0 0 0 2 0 26 3.42
R.Davis 1 1 0 0 0 1 0 15 2.48
Totals 8 16 7 7 5 6 1

Hitless Wonders IP H R ER BB SO HR PC ERA
V.Ruhle WIN(2-2) 7 5 1 1 4 1 0 100 2.48
T.Power 2 2 1 1 1 1 0 37 2.72
Totals 9 7 2 2 5 2 0

GAME 3


Camels.......... 0 0 0 0 0 2 0 0 3 - 5 8 0
Hitless Wonders. 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 - 0 4 0
Win:Bosio(8-5) Loss:Guidry(9-8) Save:McGaffigan(10th)
Homeruns- B.Downing(6th)




Camels AB R H RBI AVG ..... Hitless Wonders AB R H RBI AVG
G.Redus 1B 4 1 1 1 .300 ..... J.Oquendo 2B 4 0 1 0 .300
A-L.Durham 1B 0 0 0 0 .276..... D.Walling DH 4 0 0 0 .279
T.Fernandez SS 3 1 1 1 .316..... R.Carew 1B 4 0 1 0 .348
D.Evans RF 4 0 1 0 .317..... S.Kemp LF 4 0 0 0 .277
K.Puckett CF 4 1 1 1 .392 ..... L.Parrish 3B 3 0 0 0 .261
B.Downing LF 4 1 2 2 .289..... R.Yount SS 3 0 0 0 .223
K.Mitchell DH 4 0 1 0 .274..... J.Nolan C 3 0 1 0 .294
O.Virgil C 3 0 0 0 .250 ..... D.Martinez CF 2 0 1 0 .200
B-D.Berryhill C 0 0 0 0 .259 ..... K.Gibson RF 3 0 0 0 .197
S.Buechele 3B 3 0 0 0 .180
M.Trillo 2B 2 1 1 0 .250
-- -- -- --- -- -- -- ---
Totals 31 5 8 5 Totals 30 0 4 0

A-Subbed Defensively (1B) For Redus In 8th Inning
B-Subbed Defensively (C ) For Virgil In 8th Inning

Camels.......... 0 0 0 0 0 2 0 0 3 - 5 8 0
Hitless Wonders. 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 - 0 4 0

Camels IP H R ER BB SO HR PC ERA
C.Bosio WIN(8-5) 7 1 0 0 1 5 0 84 3.83
A.McGaffigan SAVE(10th) 2 3 0 0 0 3 0 37 3.00
Totals 9 4 0 0 1 8 0

Hitless Wonders IP H R ER BB SO HR PC ERA
R.Guidry LOSS(9-8) 8 5 3 3 2 7 0 107 2.34
G.Gossage 1 3 2 2 1 1 1 28 4.22
Totals 9 8 5 5 3 8 1


I see nothing! as Sgt. Shultz used to say.

[hechojazz]

I see no Gibson in any of those lineups...

[the icemen]

batting 9th in games 1 and 3

[hechojazz]

Oops - you're right. Sorry. I thought you were the Camels...

That certainly is a peculiar phenomenon. I've never seen it in the absence of an injury, and for it to occur in only one of the three games is very strange...perhaps Bernie can shed some light?

[Sykes25]

You dropped Gibson on 6/8 yet he played in those games for that night's cycle.

When you drop Gibson, he is removed from your line-up; however, perhaps the timing of the drop interfered with your settings of line-up and HAL did what he felt was right to put in a new RF for you.

While pitchers are locked at 10pm, perhaps there is a lag that let your late night moves sneak into the game settings post 10pm.

I don't think HAL is broken here. I sincerely think it was timing.

BTW- WTF kind of line-up is that and how are you playing 3 games over .500 with that line-up sorted like that? :wink:

[the icemen]

why would Gibson reappear in game 3? None of the new players acquired played in any games...all of the other players like yount played all 3 games.

and whats wrong with my lineup except that they suck?

My highest obp is at the top...my highest slg which is pathetic is in the middle...and my bums are at the bottom. My players act like they are playing in the grand canyon instead of the astrodome.

it is just a pathetic lineup.

Ice

[Sykes25]

[quote:2536eccfc2="the icemen"]why would Gibson reappear in game 3? None of the new players acquired played in any games...all of the other players like yount played all 3 games.

Ice[/quote:2536eccfc2]

Your line-up slot was "empty" where you previously had Gibson as he was dropped and the player you added to that slot was not eligible for play that night. HAL decided for Kirk in game 1 and Randy in game 2 for that "empty" slot. Simple really.

Sometimes HAL will even shuffle line-up positions when you leave the line-up spot blank. I've had similar things happen when people accept trades at 9:45 at night and HAL gets to juggle my line-up to his taste.