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OF throwing arms

Postby mjsm01 » Mon Jun 12, 2006 6:11 am

For CF and RF my choices are 1e7(-2) and 1e8(-3), should the "-3" be put in CF or RF?
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Postby Proverbial Psalms » Mon Jun 12, 2006 8:12 am

My choice... -3 in RF, since baserunners to third base get the biggest advantage running on a RF'er. Also, only a slight slight extra advantage is that CF has more fileding chances than RF, so the e8 in RF is also less harmful than the e8 in CF.. again that piece is just SLIGHT, the arm is the bigger factor for my RF vote. Just my 2 cents.
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Postby cplake » Mon Jun 12, 2006 9:20 am

Put your best arm in RF.......
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Postby hechojazz » Mon Jun 12, 2006 10:52 am

Since CF gets more chances, isn't putting the best arm in CF a good idea, so long as the range is equivalent or better? In deciding whether to set the manager setting for baserunning at normal or aggressive, I never encourage running if the opponent's CF has a healthy (-#) arm rating. Should I be more concerned about the corner spots?
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Postby bjs73 » Mon Jun 12, 2006 4:40 pm

I believe runners advancing form first to third get a bonus of +2 to their running if the ball is hit to right field. There are no bonuses to CF or LF for runners going from 1st to third.

Best arm in RF for me when i have that opportunity.
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Postby Proverbial Psalms » Mon Jun 12, 2006 4:42 pm

Let me explain, and apologies if you laready know this...

"CF has more chances"...

This is strictly in relation to a pitcher's card reading of cf-x, rf-x, lf-x, etc.... it triggers a result using the fielder's range and e-rating, the 1 and e8 in our CF example.

It is these "x" readings on a pitcher's card where CF has a higher likelihood of their range and e-rating coming into effect than for RF or LF.

Of the pitcher's card, total of 108 different possibilities, there are always 7 chances for ss-x, 6 chances for 2b-x, 3 chances for cf-x, 3 chances for 3b-x, 3 chances for catch-x... and 2 chances for all remaining positions (rf-x, lf-x, p-x, 1b-x)

Thus the range/e rating for CF (3 chances) is 50% more likely to occur (come into play) than for either the RF or LF range/e ratings (2 chances), but the OF's are much lower chance than the ss and 2b for certain... which is one of the reasons middle defense is critical.

"Outfielder's Arm"...

In a whole separate, unrelated way the OF arm comes into play, it's not per se from any x plays on the pitcher's card, but rather it comes into play WHENEVER a baserunner is on and the result is single (RF) or single (CF)... Single (LF)... or Double (CF) etc.... this can come from either the batter's card, the pitcher's card, or the fielding charts from a cf-x, rf-x, etc... And there are many more of these chances on the batter and pitcher card readings than there are coming from the fielding charts.

So, why is RF the best place to put your best OF arm...? Because when a runner on first is trying for third on a Single-LF, Single-CF, or Single-RF, in addition to the baserunners speed rating and OF arm being applied, there's also a factor based on what fielder is involved... if it's LF, runner gets a -2 in addition to the OF arm... in CF there is a zero factor, while if it's RF, the runner gets a +2 factor added to the RF arm.. with the +2 in RF already giving the runner an advantage going to 3B, the RF's arm is critical... only the speedy runners will try 3B on a CF, so putting the best arm there won't have as much impact as in RF.

I'm simplifying a bit (because I need to log off), but that's my 2 cents. Hope it helps and that it's not confusing!!
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Postby mjsm01 » Mon Jun 12, 2006 10:36 pm

WOW! That was alot of information.
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