Collusion: Please Comment

[nevdully's]

BTW..."Did the owner ask to make a lop-sided trade? Or at this point, is that a false accusation?"

It[b:7787156e5b] DOESN"T MATTER [/b:7787156e5b][b:7787156e5b]whether the trades were lopsided or not[/b:7787156e5b]...... It could be Mays for Snider in both leagues....Read the FREAKIN INTENT!!!!!! [b:7787156e5b]You help me here, I'll help you there!!!!![/b:7787156e5b]

[b:7787156e5b]Let's not get off track [/b:7787156e5b]and attack king olav while [b:7787156e5b]losing site of the original problem[/b:7787156e5b][/quote]

[nevdully's]

In my mind it was still unethical, and no amount of clever tricky Bill Clinton wording or possible backpedaling changes my mind about the [b:1b738275ea]INTENT[/b:1b738275ea].

[nevdully's]

[quote:ef35cc4ea3]Hey, looks like there are 2 trades that we could make in different leagues that could be helpful to both of us.
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TOTALLY INACCURATE! What Harry should say to accurately echo the senders setiments is "I'm offering two trades...One helps me here, the other helps you there, where I'm out of contention."

BULLSh*T

[harry lime]

Nev-- i was only kidding about it being Ty. Not sure if you were implying that it was him.

The bottom line is that this would have been better dealt with in private first. No one knows what this person's intent was because there was no follow through.

[harry lime]

[quote:2acba07ec9="nevdully's"][quote:2acba07ec9]Hey, looks like there are 2 trades that we could make in different leagues that could be helpful to both of us.
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TOTALLY INACCURATE! What Harry should say to accurately echo the senders setiments is "I'm offering two trades...One helps me here, the other helps you there, where I'm out of contention."

BULLSh*T[/quote:2acba07ec9]

Nev-- I was only saying that if it was worded that way-- just slightly different- then there would have been no problem. Maybe it was badly worded. All trades aredesigned to help you out. That's why you make them. I'm not defending the guy-- just saying that we don't know his true intent.

[gamiam]

[quote:a484a08bb9="nevdully's"]I like TyCobb, and while it does give me pause to join another league with him I do believe he'll do right (imo) from here on out. BUT in my mind it was still unethical, and no amount of clever tricky Bill Clinton wording or possible backpedaling changes my mind about the [b:a484a08bb9]INTENT[/b:a484a08bb9].[/quote:a484a08bb9]

Hang on...I don't think anyone was saying that he was the owner! It was just a joke. Ty's own post was just questioning intent, and Harry Lime was clearly joking.

[nevdully's]

Harry thanks for pointing out that it might not be Ty........Ty if it's not you, my sincerest apologies....I'll use different language in my above posts...

[nevdully's]

[quote:2235b2a495]Nev-- I was only saying that if it was worded that way-- just slightly different- then there would have been no problem. Maybe it was badly worded. All trades aredesigned to help you out. That's why you make them. I'm not defending the guy-- just saying that we don't know his true intent. [/quote:2235b2a495]

Gotta respectfully disagree here. It was stated CLEARLY the 2nd trade was not designed to help the sender out. He was using it as a bargaining chip in trying to secure the first trade.......It certainly could be implied, while not stated that the first trade was "not" in king olav's best interest.

[nevdully's]

:) :) :)

[harry lime]

Nev-- I thought it was pretty clear I was joking-- I even put those silly smiley faces in to make sure it was obvious.

I agree that the post was somewhat shady sounding. Made more so, by Olav's original message where he editorialized the "lopsided trade" part. But-- we still don't KNOW what the intent was. We can only guess. I just don;t think it was bad enough to post here... yet. It could be comletely harmless. Hell, maybe he was trying to see how honest Olav was, but putting out a feeler, to see if he was willing to collude.We just can't say.

I think Olav's intent in posting this was probably harmless, I just disagree with how he went about it. No big deal.