WBKL chat thread - league full. Let's rock

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WBKL chat thread - league full. Let's rock

PostMon Jan 13, 2014 8:40 am

Hi folks. Let's do our chatting about the league here. 8-)

RULES (updated 15 January 2014; 20 January 2014)

Initial Draft:
1) The initial draft is a 41 round live draft. Rounds 1 through 40 are for players; Round 41 is for the stadium.
2) Only those players who were issued SOM cards this year (2014 for 2013 season) and appear on SOM's website are eligible for the initial draft.
3) The initial draft is serpentine; all subsequent Free Agent drafts are non-serpentine based upon the previous season's regular season combined records. (See below) Draft picks are tradeable.

Prospect drafts:
1) There is 1 prospect draft during each season
2) The yearly prospect draft is 3 rounds, to be held immediately after each year's Spring Free Agent draft, here after called Spring Prospect Draft
3) Only those players without MLB experience signed by MLB teams are eligible for any prospect draft. Propsect Eligibility: Prospects are defined as any player that has a signed contract with an MLB organization that has no MLB experience prior to the start of the current MLB season.
4) The initial prospect draft is serpentine. Draft order for this initial Prospect draft will be the reverse of the draft order for the Initial Free Agent draft. All subsequent prospect drafts are non-serpentine, and draft order is based on the previous year's regular season records.
5) Owners lose rights to all prospects that they release; Released prospects are eligible to be drafted as either a) Free Agents if they were issued SOM cards or b) prospects again if never issued SOM cards.
6) There is no clock for Round 1 of each prospect draft. All subsequent rounds will operate with a 3 hour clock.
7) Individual owners are responsible for their own prospect research.
8) Draft Order for the Spring Prospect draft is determeined by the cumaltive records of the preveious season.

Supplemental Free Agent drafts:
1) A Supplemental Free Agent draft of up to 3 rounds will be held between seasons 1 and 2 of each calender year.
2) All owners must announce their roster drops ( up to 3) prior to the Supplemental draft.
3) Owners may drop up to 3 players, but do not have to drop any. Owners with less than a 40 man active roster may use the Supplemental Draft to get back to a full 40 man roster under the following conditions:
a) They have the draft picks available to do so
b) they do not drop more than 3 players
c) they can do it within the 3 rounds/36 pick draft window.
4) Supplemental Free Agent drafts are non-sepentine; Supplemental Free Agent draft order is determined by the previous season's regular season record.
5) There is no clock for Round 1 of the Supplemental Free Agent draft. All subsequent rounds will operate with a 3 hour clock.
6) The Supplemental Free Agent draft is only 3 rounds. There will never be more than 36 picks made in the Supplemental draft.
7) Eligiliblity for players to be drafted follows the same rules as the Spring Free Agent draft for that year, that is any player with MLB experience prior to the start of the current MLB season is eligible to be drafted in the supplemental draft

Annual Spring Free Agent drafts:
1) A non-serpentine free agent draft of at least 10, and up to 15 rounds, will be held each year shortly after TSN/SOM cards are released. Draft order is determined by cumulative win/loss records from the previous year. Worst to first, NFL style.
2) All owners must drop enough players to bring their rosters to a maximum of 30 players allowing for 10 draft picks; Owners can drop below 30 players, but must not have less than 25 prior to the draft.
3) Player drops must be announce prior to the beginning of the Free Agent draft.
4) All owners must have a full 40 man roster upon completion of the annual Spring Free Agent draft.
5) There is no clock for Round 1 of each Annual Free Agent draft. All subsequent rounds will operate with a 3 hour clock.
6) PROSPECT PROMOTIONS AND DROPS MUST BE DONE PRIOR TO THE START OF THE FREE AGENT DRAFT; AFTER
6a) DROPPING 10 TO 15 REGULAR ROSTER PLAYERS AND
6b) AFTER ALL EXPIRING PROSPECTS HAVE BEEN EITHER PROMOTED OR DROPPED; AND
6c) AFTER ALL NON-EXPIRING PROSPECTS HAVE BEEN PROMOTED, DROPPED OR UNCHANGED;
NO MANAGER MAY HAVE A ROSTER OF MORE THAN 30 PLAYERS PRIOR TO THE START OF THE SPRING FREE AGENT DRAFT.
Also:
7)NO MANAGER MAY HAVE MORE THAN 10 (TEN) PROSPECTS ON THEIR ROSTER AFTER ALL DROPS AND PROMOTIONS HAVE BEEN MADE AND THE FREE AGENT DRAFT BEGINS


General rules:
1) There will be 2 seasons played each year; Season 1 will begin in after the Initial spring free agent draft - Season 2 will begin in August.
2) Divisional assignments will change each season. The format is this: a) initial divisional assignments will be follow the general 1-4-7-10 East, 2-5-8-11 Central and 3-6-9-12 West.
3) Cumulative team records will determine the divisional assignments for Season 1 of each new year.
4) Divisional assignments for season 2 each year will be determined by the final win/loss records of the previous season.
5) All transactions must be posted on the individual league thread.
6) The league Commish shall maintain a record of all drafts, transactions and player movements and provide a copy to any owner on request.
7) All ties between teams will be broken by the previous season's head to head win/loss records. If this does not break the tie, cumulative win/loss head to head records will be used.
8) You cannot trade draft choices that you do not own. This means that if you trade a 9th round draft pick, you must release as many players as necessary to insure that you will have a 9th round pick. For example, you have a 40 man roster, and you have acquired an extra 2nd, 3rd, and 6th round draft picks during the year. You have also traded away
a 7th and 9th round draft pick. This means you must release at least 12 players prior to the draft to insure that you will have a 9th round pick. If you plan to continue drafting beyond
Round 9 you will have to release an additional player for each subsequent round. You cannot drop more than 15 players.
9) All rule changes must pass by a super majority - 8 owners or more.
10) There are no specific rules against "roster dumping." Owners no longer in a pennant race can use their best judgement in determining the makeup of their team, provided that all general roster size limits are met. However, it is expected that all owners will act in the best interests of the game.
11) All leagues will be set up using the DH.

Stadium rules:
1) Each player will draft a stadium during Round 41 of the Initial Free Agent draft.
2) Stadium draft order will be the reverse of Round 1 of the Initial Free Agent draft.
3) Stadiums are unique and belong to each owner for the duration of the league.
4) Owners can choose to change their stadium after 2 years (or 4 of our SOM leagues).
5) There will be a separate stadium draft immediately following the Spring FA draft each year.
5) Owners wishing to change stadiums must drop their stadium PRIOR to the Spring FA draft.
4) Stadiums can also be changed through trade. Players may trade stadiums with other players at any time except while a regular season is in progress.

Roster rules:
1) Each team must carry no more than a 40 man roster. In the event a transaction sends an owner's roster above the 40 man limit, said owner is allowed 1 day to release as many players as necessary to get back to the 40 man limit. However if an owner has less than 40 players due to uneven trades, the owner cannot bring his roster to the full 40 until a Free agnet draft, whether spring or supplemental. ( See Player Movement)
2) Each team must carry a 25 man league roster during each season.
3) Each will carry a 15 man minor league roster during each season.
4) Each team may add an additional 3 players (to a maximum of 28 players) to their MLB roster once game 132 has been played.
5) There are no limits to tranactions between an owner's major and minor league rosters except those internal to the SOM game engine.
6) Injured players can be kept on a team's major league roster for the duration of their injury. Players promoted to the major league roster as injury replacements must be returned to the minor league roster once the injury has healed. There is a 2-game grace period to return injury replacement players to the minor league roster - this allows each owner to maintain a constant 25 man roster at all times. We will be using the honor system here - please don't keep players beyond their authorized time!
7) Each team is set up with a $200 million dollar roster; all roster transactions will use the 10% Free Agent penalty.
8) The minimum roster size is 30 players. The only exceptions are during the supplemental and free agent draft periods.
9) All teams must meet SOM roster requirements at all times while in season.

Prospect Player rules:
1) The maximum number of prospects allowed on each roster is 10.
2) Prospects are not counted as part of the 40 man roster while they maintain their prospect status.
3) Owners control the rights of their prospects for no longer than 2 years. At the end of 2 years (from time of draft) a prospect must either be promoted to the MLB roster or released.
4) Prospects can be traded, but the 2 year timeline remains constant for each prospect. Prospects moving from one team to another must be promoted or released when the original 2 year cycle has been reached.
5) Prospects can be promoted to the major league roster at any time, provided there is roster space available. Once promoted all prospects lose their prospect status, and cannot be demoted back to prospect status.
Please see additional rules for prospects under the spring free agent draft thread

Player movement:
1) Trading players is encouraged. The trading of draft picks is also welcome. Unbalanced trades are allowed provided that the 40 man roster limit is maintained at all times; in the event of an unbalanced trade the owner of the team whose roster exceeds the 40 man limit is allowed 1 day to release player(s) to get back to the 40 man limit. ALL TRADES ARE SUBJECT TO REVIEW FOR RULES AND ROSTER COMPLIANCE. TRADES ARE NOT OFFICIAL UNTIL THIS PROCESS IS COMPLETE. IN THE EVENT OF A TRADE INVOLVING DRAFT PICKS IN AN ONGOING DRAFT, NEWLY ACQUIRED PICKS CANNOT BE MADE UNTIL THE LEAGUE REVIEW PROCESS IS COMPLETE.
2) There will be no pickups of free agent players except through the Annual and Supplemental Free Agent drafts.
3) Prospects can be activated and promoted to the major league roster during the regular season provided there is roster space available to do so. Players with a full 40 man roster cannot promote a prospect until there is room available to do so.
4) Regular players on the 40 man roster cannot be released in order to promote a prospect while a season is in progress.
5) Regular players can be released from the 40 man roster only for the following: a) pre-draft release prior to Annual Free Agent draft; b) pre-draft release prior to Supplemental free agent draft; c) to bring a roster down to the 40 man limit as a result of an unbalanced transaction.
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Re: World Baseball Keeper League chat thread

PostTue Jan 14, 2014 11:27 am

Bumping this chat thread as league is almost full!
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Re: World Baseball Keeper League chat thread

PostTue Jan 14, 2014 11:37 am

Would like to see some minor rule changes discussed:

Only 1 prospect draft, 3 rounds after FA draft
Max prospect 6
Ballpark - can change once every 2 years

How is determination of cards for initial draft going to be if we are to draft soon but do not know who will appear on TSN website?

Thanks
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Re: World Baseball Keeper League chat thread

PostTue Jan 14, 2014 11:50 am

Hey Dave,

Happy to discuss anything and everything, once we are full. :D

Cheers,
big
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Re: World Baseball Keeper League chat thread

PostTue Jan 14, 2014 11:54 am

Well since I saw it I'll put my 2 cents in from Dave's post and I'm I'm fine everything but the max prospects of 6. If it we that it would basically take away any incentive to gain them in trades and dampens their value.
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Re: World Baseball Keeper League chat thread

PostTue Jan 14, 2014 12:01 pm

Looks like we are now full as Michael Grammes posted at 12th manager.

I get the max prospects, and not a sticking point, but having 1 prospect draft I would be in favor of with 3 rounds.

Where do we go from here? rules changes? how draft get draft going?
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Re: World Baseball Keeper League chat thread

PostTue Jan 14, 2014 12:04 pm

Ya same here I do like having just the one draft but it doesn't matter to me.

I'm ready to draft ;)
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Re: World Baseball Keeper League chat thread

PostTue Jan 14, 2014 12:18 pm

We are full! :D

Hi guys, and welcome! As I said, I am happy to discuss one or two minor tweaks, but am not interested in wholesale rules changes. But I'm glad you are all amped and ready to go!

Please read through the rules very carefully before we get started. If there's anything in there that doesn't make sense, or that you want to discuss, let me know now.

Could I ask you all to provide me with an email address that is both valid and frequently visited? Email me at clmahon@hotmail.com as soon as you can.

I will get a master spreadsheet together once we establish draft order and agree the minor rules changes (if any).

Then we can start drafting!

big
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Re: World Baseball Keeper League chat thread

PostTue Jan 14, 2014 12:38 pm

I don't want to draft until we know who is unleashed. Right now we know bubkiss. It would be a clustermuck.
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Re: World Baseball Keeper League chat thread

PostTue Jan 14, 2014 12:48 pm

Rosco said, and I just noticed, that we can buy the ratings book download now.(and book too, tho the book wont ship till SOM has them in hand)

I am ordering as soon as I can tonight (book and cards) which brings me to another question...

Anyone here want to sell any past season card sets? If so, how much might ya want for them, including shipping?
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