Moneyball Free Agent Signings 2024

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Re: Moneyball Free Agent Signings 2024

PostSat Dec 28, 2024 11:28 am

sociophil wrote:3. The bottom six teams* will initiate the bidding process by announcing a contract offer beginning on Tuesday January 2nd.


So any of the 6 teams can start the bidding? In any order, just to get things going?
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Re: Moneyball Free Agent Signings 2024

PostSat Dec 28, 2024 12:17 pm

Here is the order of bidding, please check in ASAP:

1 spider 67 -- IN
2 mykbar1 --
3 chilliards --
4 madal --
5 Paul_Long71 -- IN
6 tcochran -- IN
7 ggyuppie --
8 baseball cfo -- IN
9 teamnasty -- IN
10 sociophil -- IN
11 oldmansmith2 -- IN
12 Evil Spock --
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Re: Moneyball Free Agent Signings 2024

PostSat Dec 28, 2024 12:23 pm

Here is the order of bidding, please check in ASAP:

1 spider 67 -- IN
2 mykbr1 -- IN
3 chilliards --
4 madal --
5 Paul_Long71 -- IN
6 tcochran -- IN
7 ggyuppie --
8 baseball cfo -- IN
9 teamnasty -- IN
10 sociophil -- IN
11 oldmansmith2 -- IN
12 Evil Spock --
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Re: Moneyball Free Agent Signings 2024

PostSat Dec 28, 2024 1:16 pm

Bidding is supposed to follow the bid order.
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Re: Moneyball Free Agent Signings 2024

PostSat Dec 28, 2024 1:23 pm

teamnasty wrote:Bidding is supposed to follow the bid order.


Not clear from the change Phil is making to speed up the signing period
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Re: Moneyball Free Agent Signings 2024

PostSat Dec 28, 2024 1:29 pm

Phil the discrepancy in Article 10 regarding what it takes to make a successful upbid is still there. Sec 10.1 says "The dollar bid does not have to increase if the years offered are increased." Sec 10.4 says "In order to obtain a free agent, a team must bid more money per year AND at least as many years as anyone else." Then the example is given in Sec 10.5 "Example 1: Derek Jeter is a free agent. Team A bids 2 year, $10 million contract ($5 million per year). Any team placing a bid after Team A, must match the years offered and exceed the money per year offered to pass Team A for their rights." You have previously ruled that Sec 10.1 is what we are going with and asked for suggestions as to the new wording. ggyuppie suggested "In order to obtain a free agent, a team must either bid more money per year on a contract of the same length OR at least match the money per year on a longer contract than anyone else." Those posts are on pg.165 of the Moneyball Free Agent Signings thread and your original ruling on the issue is on pg 102. That thread is on pg 15 of the ILC if you wanted to look them up.
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Re: Moneyball Free Agent Signings 2024

PostSat Dec 28, 2024 1:41 pm

teamnasty wrote:Bidding is supposed to follow the bid order.

In the past we have definitely had people make a new bid when its legal for them to do so even if a manger before them was supposed to do so and hasn't. Let's say there were 5 players on the board with bids and Phil is up but doesn't bid up a new player. Then another player is signed making only 4 players currently on the board. If I follow Phil in the order, I don't have to wait till he puts up his new player I can go ahead with mine. It has been customary for us to follow the order for the 1st round, I guess just to make sure everybody is engaged.
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Re: Moneyball Free Agent Signings 2024

PostSat Dec 28, 2024 1:43 pm

Tc: Right it’s league precedent. The idea is to give an advantage to the team with the worst record last year similar to advanatages in draft orders in real life. The “weakest” team gets to control which player gets thrown out and under which terms in descending order to the best team, who has least control over draft dynamics. Exception: If in the middle of the draft a team who is on the clock to bid but is slow to nominate a player even though they are expected to nominate a player ASAP, they can be skipped by the next team in order once another player is signed
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Re: Moneyball Free Agent Signings 2024

PostSat Dec 28, 2024 1:48 pm

Old: right, a legal upbid either must have more money or more length in it while satisfying bid/year $ minimums, but it doesn’t have to have both.
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Re: Moneyball Free Agent Signings 2024

PostSat Dec 28, 2024 3:20 pm

Here is the order of bidding, please check in ASAP:

1 spider 67 -- IN
2 mykbr1 -- IN
3 chilliards --
4 madal -- IN
5 Paul_Long71 -- IN
6 tcochran -- IN
7 ggyuppie --
8 baseball cfo -- IN
9 teamnasty -- IN
10 sociophil -- IN
11 oldmansmith2 -- IN
12 Evil Spock --
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