ANDY'S ALTERNATE HISTORY 13.0

I’ll take Tavener, Jackie 2 4 SS

Tough choice and I may regret it but Ted Lyons SP 2-8

I was surprised Lyons lasted this long frankly.

ANDYS ALT13.0 Season #2 DRAFT
ROUND 1
1. BROOKLYN DODGERS (Hamilton17) - Travis Jackson SS
2. ST. LOUIS BROWNS (andy) - Garland Braxton SP
3. PHILADLEPHIA PHILLIES (barterer2002) - George Grantham 1b
4. ST. LOUIS CARDINALS (drfreeze) - Les Bell 3b
5. NEW YORK YANKEES (Main Line Expos) - Taylor Douthit OF
6. CINCINNATI REDS (tkl33) - Meusel, Bob 2 4 OF
7. PHILADELPHIA A's (pacoboy) - Jackie Tavener SS
8. CLEVELAND INDIANS (HIttmens) - Ted Lyons SP
9. (BOS-Rip Collins, NYG-Charlie Root, PIT-Pie Traynor)
10.
11.

ROUND 2
1. BROOKLYN DODGERS (Hamilton17) -
2. ST. LOUIS BROWNS (andy) -
3. PHILADLEPHIA PHILLIES (barterer2002) -
4. ST. LOUIS CARDINALS (drfreeze) -
5. NEW YORK YANKEES (Main Line Expos) -
6. CINCINNATI REDS (tkl33) -
7. PHILADELPHIA A's (pacoboy) -
8. CLEVELAND INDIANS (HIttmens) -
9. (BOS, NYG, PIT, CHC)
10.
11.
12.

ROUND 3
1. BROOKLYN DODGERS (Hamilton17) -
2. ST. LOUIS BROWNS (andy) -
3. PHILADLEPHIA PHILLIES (barterer2002) -
4. ST. LOUIS CARDINALS (drfreeze) -
5. NEW YORK YANKEES (Main Line Expos) -
6. CINCINNATI REDS (tkl33) -
7. PHILADELPHIA A's (pacoboy) -
8. CLEVELAND INDIANS (HIttmens) -
9. (BOS, NYG, PIT, CHC)
10.
11.
12.

ROUND 4
1. BROOKLYN DODGERS (Hamilton17) -
2. ST. LOUIS BROWNS (andy) -
3. PHILADLEPHIA PHILLIES (barterer2002) -
4. ST. LOUIS CARDINALS (drfreeze) -
5. NEW YORK YANKEES (Main Line Expos) -
6. CINCINNATI REDS (tkl33) -
7. PHILADELPHIA A's (pacoboy) -
8. CLEVELAND INDIANS (HIttmens) -
9. (BOS, NYG, PIT, CHC)
10.
11.
12.

ROUND 5
1. BROOKLYN DODGERS (Hamilton17) -
2. ST. LOUIS BROWNS (andy) -
3. PHILADLEPHIA PHILLIES (barterer2002) -
4. ST. LOUIS CARDINALS (drfreeze) -
5. NEW YORK YANKEES (Main Line Expos) -
6. CINCINNATI REDS (tkl33) -
7. PHILADELPHIA A's (pacoboy) -
8. CLEVELAND INDIANS (HIttmens) -
9. (BOS, NYG, PIT, CHC)
10.
11.
12.

ROUND 6
1. BROOKLYN DODGERS (Hamilton17) -
2. ST. LOUIS BROWNS (andy) -
3. PHILADLEPHIA PHILLIES (barterer2002) -
4. ST. LOUIS CARDINALS (drfreeze) -
5. NEW YORK YANKEES (Main Line Expos) -
6. CINCINNATI REDS (tkl33) -
7. PHILADELPHIA A's (pacoboy) -
8. CLEVELAND INDIANS (HIttmens) -
9. (BOS, NYG, PIT, CHC)
10.
11.
12.

TEAM DRAFT SELECTIONS
BOSTON RED SOX - (bontomn) - 1 GA - Topper Rigney SS, Rip Collins RP
BROOKLYN DODGERS - (Hamilton17) - 1 GA - Andy High 2B, Travis Jackson SS
CHICAGO CUBS - (caimrisek) - 0 GA - Gabby Hartnett C & Hack Wilson CF
CINCINNATI REDS - (tkl33) - 1 GA - Red Lucas SP, Bob Meusel OF
CLEVELAND INDIANS - (Hittmens) - 1 GA - Lew Fonseca, Ted Lyons SP
NEW YORK GIANTS - (emart) - 1 GA - Bill Terry 1B, Charlie Root SP
NEW YORK YANKEES - (Main Line Expos) - 1 GA - Lou Gehrig 1B, Taylor Douthit OF
PHILADELPHIA A's - (pacoboy) - 1 GA - Bing Miller OF, Jackie Tavener SS
PHILADELPHIA PHILLIES (barterer2002) - 1 GA - Syl Johnson SP, George Grantham 1b
PITTSBURGH PIRATES - (ironwill 1) - 1 GA - Kiki Cuyler OF, Pie Traynor 3b
ST. LOUIS CARDINALS (drfreeze) - 1 GA - Jim Bottomley 1b, Les Bell 3b
ST. LOUIS BROWNS (andy) - 1 GA - Goose Goslin OF, Garland Braxton SP

Acosta, Jose 2 2 RP
Adams, Sparky 2 5 IF
Barnhart, Clyde 2 4 OF
Bengough, Benny 2 5 C
Benton, Larry 2 5 SP
Berg, Moe 2 6 C
Betts, Huck 2 5 RP
Blake, Sheriff 2 6 SP
Blue, Lu 2 5 1B
Bluege, Ossie 2 6 3B
Brown, Eddie 2 4 OF/1B
Burwell, Bill 2 4 RP
Bush, Guy 2 8 SP
Clark, Bob W. 2 2 RP
Collins, Phil 2 5 SP/RP
Cunningham, Bill 2 3 OF
Cvengros, Mike 2 4 RP
Deberry, Joe 2 2 SP
Decatur, Art 2 3 SP
Donohue, Pete 2 5 SP
Durst, Cedric 2 4 OF/1B
Elliott, Jumbo 2 5 SP
Falk, Bibb 2 4 OF
Fisher, Showboat 2 5 OF
Fothergill, Bob 'Fats' 2 5 OF
French, Walter 2 4 OF
Gazella, Mike 2 4 3B
Genewich, Joe 2 4 SP
Gooch, Johnny 2 5 C
Hale, Sammy 2 4 1B/3B
Harriss, Slim 2 4 SP
Henry, Dutch 2 4 RP
Hodge, Shovel 2 2 RP
Kamm, Willie 2 5 3B
Klugmann, Joe 2 3 IF
Kolp, Ray 2 5 SP
Leach, Freddy 2 5 OF/1B
Lutzke, Rube 2 3 3B
Manush, Heinie 2 6 OF
Marberry, Firpo 2 6 RP
Matthews, Wid 2 3 OF
McCurdy, Harry 2 5 C
McManus, Marty 2 5 3B/IF
McMillan, Norm 2 4 3B
Mitchell, Johnny 2 3 SS
Mokan, Johnny 2 3 OF
Moore, Eddie 2 5 IF
Morrison, Johnny 2 4 RP
Myatt, Glenn 2 6 C
Neis, Bernie 2 3 OF
Ogden, Curly 2 3 SP
Osborne, Tiny 2 3 SP
Pipgras, George 2 5 SP
Prothro, Doc 2 3 3B
Rice, Harry 2 5 OF
Richbourg, Lance 2 5 OF
Rommel, Eddie 2 5 RP
Sand, Heinie 2 4 SS
Schulte, Johnny 2 5 C
Sewell, Joe 2 5 3B/UT
Sewell, Luke 2 7 C
Shaute, Joe 2 5 SP
Sheely, Earl 2 4 1B
Smith, Bob 2 6 SP
Stephenson, Riggs 2 5 LF
Stewart, Lefty 2 5 SP
Summa, Homer 2 4 OF
Taylor, Zack 2 5 C
Thompson, Frank E. 2 2 3B/2B
Thurston, Sloppy 2 5 SP
Walberg, Rube 2 6 SP
Whitehill, Earl 2 6 SP
Wilson, Jimmie 2 7 C
Zahniser, Paul 2 4 SP

I was surprised Lyons lasted this long frankly.

The extra base hits for this era are death

I was surprised Lyons lasted this long frankly.

The extra base hits for this era are death

So someone that needs a pitcher goes with Root instead. Or Stewart, Ogden, Koop etc? I’m not seeing those guys as an improvement. I think there were two top of the rotation (1 or 2) guys in the draft. Lyons and Braxton. The next grouping is a bunch of 3/4 guys.

I agree with both sentiments- I have never used Lyons and I do not consider him a great value- and the doubles are a concern -however I do think there is a lack of solid starting pitching in the pre-war era, Cleveland especially unlike many teams in this league have very few good options for anything until the post war period.

Pace is just trying to figure out which 2 of his four studs to protect next year.

ANDYS ALT13.0 Season #2 DRAFT
ROUND 1
1. BROOKLYN DODGERS (Hamilton17) - Travis Jackson SS
2. ST. LOUIS BROWNS (andy) - Garland Braxton SP
3. PHILADLEPHIA PHILLIES (barterer2002) - George Grantham 1b
4. ST. LOUIS CARDINALS (drfreeze) - Les Bell 3b
5. NEW YORK YANKEES (Main Line Expos) - Taylor Douthit OF
6. CINCINNATI REDS (tkl33) - Meusel, Bob 2 4 OF
7. PHILADELPHIA A's (pacoboy) - Jackie Tavener SS
8. CLEVELAND INDIANS (HIttmens) - Ted Lyons SP
9. (BOS-Rip Collins, NYG-Charlie Root, PIT-Pie Traynor)
10.
11.

ROUND 2
1. BROOKLYN DODGERS (Hamilton17) - Harry Rice OF
2. CHICAGO CUBS (caimrisek) - (from SLB) - Firpo Marberry P
3. PHILADLEPHIA PHILLIES (barterer2002) - Riggs Stephenson OF
4. ST. LOUIS CARDINALS (drfreeze) -
5. NEW YORK YANKEES (Main Line Expos) -
6. CINCINNATI REDS (tkl33) -
7. PHILADELPHIA A's (pacoboy) -
8. CLEVELAND INDIANS (HIttmens) -
9. (BOS, NYG, PIT, CHC)
10.
11.
12.

ROUND 3
1. BROOKLYN DODGERS (Hamilton17) -
2. ST. LOUIS BROWNS (andy) -
3. PHILADLEPHIA PHILLIES (barterer2002) -
4. ST. LOUIS CARDINALS (drfreeze) -
5. NEW YORK YANKEES (Main Line Expos) -
6. CINCINNATI REDS (tkl33) -
7. PHILADELPHIA A's (pacoboy) -
8. CLEVELAND INDIANS (HIttmens) -
9. (BOS, NYG, PIT, CHC)
10.
11.
12.

ROUND 4
1. BROOKLYN DODGERS (Hamilton17) -
2. ST. LOUIS BROWNS (andy) -
3. PHILADLEPHIA PHILLIES (barterer2002) -
4. ST. LOUIS CARDINALS (drfreeze) -
5. NEW YORK YANKEES (Main Line Expos) -
6. CINCINNATI REDS (tkl33) -
7. PHILADELPHIA A's (pacoboy) -
8. CLEVELAND INDIANS (HIttmens) -
9. (BOS, NYG, PIT, CHC)
10.
11.
12.

ROUND 5
1. BROOKLYN DODGERS (Hamilton17) -
2. ST. LOUIS BROWNS (andy) -
3. PHILADLEPHIA PHILLIES (barterer2002) -
4. ST. LOUIS CARDINALS (drfreeze) -
5. NEW YORK YANKEES (Main Line Expos) -
6. CINCINNATI REDS (tkl33) -
7. PHILADELPHIA A's (pacoboy) -
8. CLEVELAND INDIANS (HIttmens) -
9. (BOS, NYG, PIT, CHC)
10.
11.
12.

ROUND 6
1. BROOKLYN DODGERS (Hamilton17) -
2. ST. LOUIS BROWNS (andy) -
3. PHILADLEPHIA PHILLIES (barterer2002) -
4. ST. LOUIS CARDINALS (drfreeze) -
5. NEW YORK YANKEES (Main Line Expos) -
6. CINCINNATI REDS (tkl33) -
7. PHILADELPHIA A's (pacoboy) -
8. CLEVELAND INDIANS (HIttmens) -
9. (BOS, NYG, PIT, CHC)
10.
11.
12.

TEAM DRAFT SELECTIONS
BOSTON RED SOX - (bontomn) - 1 GA - Topper Rigney SS, Rip Collins RP
BROOKLYN DODGERS - (Hamilton17) - 1 GA - Andy High 2B, Travis Jackson SS, Harry Rice OF
CHICAGO CUBS - (caimrisek) - 0 GA - Gabby Hartnett C & Hack Wilson CF, Firpo Marberry P
CINCINNATI REDS - (tkl33) - 1 GA - Red Lucas SP, Bob Meusel OF,
CLEVELAND INDIANS - (Hittmens) - 1 GA - Lew Fonseca, Ted Lyons SP
NEW YORK GIANTS - (emart) - 1 GA - Bill Terry 1B, Charlie Root SP
NEW YORK YANKEES - (Main Line Expos) - 1 GA - Lou Gehrig 1B, Taylor Douthit OF
PHILADELPHIA A's - (pacoboy) - 1 GA - Bing Miller OF, Jackie Tavener SS
PHILADELPHIA PHILLIES (barterer2002) - 1 GA - Syl Johnson SP, George Grantham 1b, Riggs Stephenson OF
PITTSBURGH PIRATES - (ironwill 1) - 1 GA - Kiki Cuyler OF, Pie Traynor 3b
ST. LOUIS CARDINALS (drfreeze) - 1 GA - Jim Bottomley 1b, Les Bell 3b
ST. LOUIS BROWNS (andy) - 1 GA - Goose Goslin OF, Garland Braxton SP

Acosta, Jose 2 2 RP
Adams, Sparky 2 5 IF
Barnhart, Clyde 2 4 OF
Bengough, Benny 2 5 C
Benton, Larry 2 5 SP
Berg, Moe 2 6 C
Betts, Huck 2 5 RP
Blake, Sheriff 2 6 SP
Blue, Lu 2 5 1B
Bluege, Ossie 2 6 3B
Brown, Eddie 2 4 OF/1B
Burwell, Bill 2 4 RP
Bush, Guy 2 8 SP
Clark, Bob W. 2 2 RP
Collins, Phil 2 5 SP/RP
Cunningham, Bill 2 3 OF
Cvengros, Mike 2 4 RP
Deberry, Joe 2 2 SP
Decatur, Art 2 3 SP
Donohue, Pete 2 5 SP
Durst, Cedric 2 4 OF/1B
Elliott, Jumbo 2 5 SP
Falk, Bibb 2 4 OF
Fisher, Showboat 2 5 OF
Fothergill, Bob 'Fats' 2 5 OF
French, Walter 2 4 OF
Gazella, Mike 2 4 3B
Genewich, Joe 2 4 SP
Gooch, Johnny 2 5 C
Hale, Sammy 2 4 1B/3B
Harriss, Slim 2 4 SP
Henry, Dutch 2 4 RP
Hodge, Shovel 2 2 RP
Kamm, Willie 2 5 3B
Klugmann, Joe 2 3 IF
Kolp, Ray 2 5 SP
Leach, Freddy 2 5 OF/1B
Lutzke, Rube 2 3 3B
Manush, Heinie 2 6 OF
Matthews, Wid 2 3 OF
McCurdy, Harry 2 5 C
McManus, Marty 2 5 3B/IF
McMillan, Norm 2 4 3B
Mitchell, Johnny 2 3 SS
Mokan, Johnny 2 3 OF
Moore, Eddie 2 5 IF
Morrison, Johnny 2 4 RP
Myatt, Glenn 2 6 C
Neis, Bernie 2 3 OF
Ogden, Curly 2 3 SP
Osborne, Tiny 2 3 SP
Pipgras, George 2 5 SP
Prothro, Doc 2 3 3B
Richbourg, Lance 2 5 OF
Rommel, Eddie 2 5 RP
Sand, Heinie 2 4 SS
Schulte, Johnny 2 5 C
Sewell, Joe 2 5 3B/UT
Sewell, Luke 2 7 C
Shaute, Joe 2 5 SP
Sheely, Earl 2 4 1B
Smith, Bob 2 6 SP
Stewart, Lefty 2 5 SP
Summa, Homer 2 4 OF
Taylor, Zack 2 5 C
Thompson, Frank E. 2 2 3B/2B
Thurston, Sloppy 2 5 SP
Walberg, Rube 2 6 SP
Whitehill, Earl 2 6 SP
Wilson, Jimmie 2 7 C
Zahniser, Paul 2 4 SP

I'm going to take OF Harry Rice.