2019 D2D Prospect Draft --Complete!

Just my $0.02 but I think Fred and WJS should get to keep their picks but we should now stop until Victor repicks. Seems like the fairest thing to do at this point.

Looks like I missed a lively discussion today, but for what it's worth, I think Rosco tried to have the most balanced approach (and Sean and Cal).

The problem as I see it is not that the league has rules about when your turn in the draft rolls around. The problem is that it sounds like the various roster docs were in conflict with one another.

I'm commish in a bunch of other leagues. Generally speaking, if a manager makes an error in the draft, then life goes on and he can re-pick whenever. On the other hand, if the league makes an error, then the draft stops and re-starts at a point before the error.

In this instance, I don't understand the facts well enough to know which is which. I do understand, though, that this is a game and is supposed to be fun!

I wouldn’t object had the error been noticed at 9:00am and then 4 or 5 people had picked before I checked in. That was not the case. It was 2:29, and one minute later the next pick is in. To me, the “right” thing to have done (which thanks to Fredpaii I now understand is not a consideration in this league) would have been for the person immediately following me not to have made a pick seeing the “repick” next to my name. I saw it 20 minutes later. We knew last night that there were issues with the alpha list to the point that the draft briefly stopped to have it corrected. This was something that could’ve been fixed very easily given the circumstances and the timing of discovering that the player I chose was owned.

Victor, if you would like, you may have Chris Paddack and I'll pick someone else. Giving you the option. Sorry about being so rough before.

Round 1

Doug_Tucker -Kiriloff, Alex Of Min
Hveed - Wander Franco SS TB
Eddie E - Madrigal, Nick 2B Chw
Baseball CFO - Casey Mize SP DET
Falcon - Nick Margevicius SP SD
Victor - REPICK
WJS6768 - Peter Alonzo 1B NYM
Fredpaii - Paddack, Chris SP SD
Seanreflex
Buzz
Calbatross
Heekin65
Piloneus
LevCohen
hkmossy
tcochran
Dcirish
Roscodog
boblues
terry101
Ycbill
Paul_Long71
Roscodog
Seanreflex

I would note, in defense of WSJ's action (which seems to be under some attack), that this same scenerio has happened NUMEROUS times during the FA draft this year (and prior drafts) and no one has said boo. In fact, based on memory, about 10 owners have picked after someone had a "repick" next to their slot. What has devolved into some personal skirmish's is really unnecessary. The rules are the rules, and I don't see this as a "league" error. I think the powers-that-be have given about a trillion disclaimers on the lists that are provided. They are a tool to help those less inclined to keep personal track of things, they are not meant to be all-knowing, and owners are to check and multi-check on the various other resources available in order to gauge how much dependency should be given to these. It's an unfortunate event that occurred, but by no means is it novel. Fairness is a constant, be it a first round Prospect pick or a 12th round FA pick, and the precedent has been established in this regard. Guess that's my unwanted/unsolicited 2 cents on the matter. Let's move on.

I would note, in defense of WSJ's action (which seems to be under some attack), that this same scenerio has happened NUMEROUS times during the FA draft this year (and prior drafts) and no one has said boo. In fact, based on memory, about 10 owners have picked after someone had a "repick" next to their slot. What has devolved into some personal skirmish's is really unnecessary. The rules are the rules, and I don't see this as a "league" error. I think the powers-that-be have given about a trillion disclaimers on the lists that are provided. They are a tool to help those less inclined to keep personal track of things, they are not meant to be all-knowing, and owners are to check and multi-check on the various other resources available in order to gauge how much dependency should be given to these. It's an unfortunate event that occurred, but by no means is it novel. Fairness is a constant, be it a first round Prospect pick or a 12th round FA pick, and the precedent has been established in this regard. Guess that's my unwanted/unsolicited 2 cents on the matter. Let's move on.

I’d have held my pick, especially seeing that the error had just been discovered one minute before. So, just for shits and giggles, besides our rosters and alpha list, what other tools could I have used?

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You’ve already shown your true self. I didn’t ask your opinion.

Is this directed at me Victor. If so can you please clarify?

You’ve already shown your true self. I didn’t ask your opinion.

Is this directed at me Victor. If so can you please clarify?

I believe that was intended for Fred? This has been interesting; personally I would have waited a few hours or right until I was going to bed. But to each their own ...it was legal to pick per the rules. On the opposite side of the spectrum over in the 24 Lets play 2 league Splinter has taken 5 Days to pick because of no time limits; he wants to trade and won’t pick until he is ready ... like I said; to each their own

I dislike the no time limits for that very reason. In some leagues we have implemented a 24hr clock In the first round of drafts to protect against that.

Ok. I'm back. took the family to a baseball game today. WJS picked 1 min after Cal posted. For all we know he was typing and hit post just a sec or two after Cal. His pick is legal and I already said as much.

Don't know where we are getting all the talk/issue about the different lists. Whitley was listed on HKMossy's roster. He did not show up on the Alpha prospects list because he is not someone's prospect, he is on a team's 30-man roster.

Sean is being cool and waiting for the pick. He doesn't have to. We've had several (probably 20-30) times over the years/drafts where someone made a pick that was invalid and a re-pick was needed and we NEVER stopped to allow them to fix their pick (whether we were on the clock or a weekend). IF you are up, you can pick.

As to the lists, Cal has proposed that we re-format the league excel sheet so that all rosters appear on one tab (would be pretty big with a 24-team league) and all owners would just look there for who is already owned. As such we would completely eliminate the Alpha Roster and Alpha prospects lists. The only reason they exist is so that people didn't have to peruse each team's roster for players.

1st round is untimed. Clock starts with round 2. Anyone wanting to make a motion to change the rules, go ahead and we can vote on it (2/3 vote needed). It still would not go into effect until next season.

Hope I addressed all the things I've read.

Please remember this is one 24-team keeper league...of fake baseball.....that we love because it makes us feel good.....don't let little things tear us down. Down the road this one pick may or may not make some sort of a difference. The guys in question won't even be around the big leagues for another 2 years or so. Let's try to keep some cordiality and decorum.