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1. carlerik - Baltimore Orioles
2 Mr Baseball World - Cincinnati Reds
3 MarcPelletier - Boston Red Sox
4 Spider 67 - New York Mets
5 Paul_Long71 - Oakland A's
6 Rube (MikeGilbert) - Houston Astros
7 buzz082308 - Kansas City Royals
8 ycbill - Milwaukee Brewers
9 Keyzick - Pittsburgh Pirates
10 FALCON29 - Montreal Expos
11 Rosie2167 - Los Angeles Dodgers
12 GBrookes - Toronto Blue Jays
13 Palerydr2.0 - Seattle Mariners
14 Crimson Fan -Detroit Tigers
15 RobertLatorre - St. Louis Cardinals
16 Dinsdale - NY Yankees
17 andycummings - San Francisco Giants
18 ctstough- Minnesota Twins
19 pwootten (replacing Musial6) - Chicago Cubs
20 rolandzeut - SD Padres
21 ScumbyJr - (proxy) - Atlanta Braves
22 FoggyOne - California Angels
23 YountFan - Philadelphia Phillies
24 davesodu - Cleveland Indians

2.1 davesodu - Luis Taint
2.2 YountFan - Frank Thomas


Sorry guys, gotta take Frank

Rosie,
Falcon,

I see your point, but I feel that the current rule gives a small edge to the franchises being picked later in the draft, since they have the first access to the best multiteam players of teams not drafted. So I think it's better the current way.

Just as long as we're clear on this.

Would it be easier if we listed who lost picks as we go so I would put down "Luis Tiant (Bos 1)" or something. The next person picking a BoSox would put "Player (Bos 2)". May make it easier to keep track so someone won't take a 3rd BoSox player in a round without realizing it.

Yountfan, you're sure now?

Davesdou - sounds like a solid idea

Yountfan, you're sure now?

Davesdou - sounds like a solid idea

Hes I am sure..... but maybe not.

^^^^

I understand your concern, Rosie. Your perspective has a number of logical points to it. If we did the league again, I would definitely give it some serious thought, in terms of which way to do it next time . But I've already expressed the answer previously and I know that many players queried me multiple times to make sure that was how the rule was being applied. Even if I thought you were right Rosie, I couldn't change the answer at this point.

But, here is the logic for the answer, recognizing your concerns , but nevertheless here is the logic:

1. All things being equal, it's generally more likely that the richer teams would be the teams most likely to have dual carded players shared with a non-picked franchise. I think I counted 2 Orioles affected, but that's after a quick search. But the Rich teams like the Yankees and Orioles signed players to free agent contracts later in their careers, and have more shared carded players than most other teams on average. It follows that they are more likely to have shared carded players with the 2 non-drafted franchises. The idea behind the rule is that the "enhanced free agency" will free up more players for the poorer teams to draft, on average.

Having said that, it doesn't always work that way. But, my quick review shows a fairly diverse effect across many teams. Baltimore and Cleveland seem to be affected more than most. Arguably the effect on Baltimore is consistent with the intended effect; Cleveland not so much.

2. I deliberately wanted to have *more* free agency. Even if it means some teams lose out on a player or 2, and it may hurt, they have the opportunity to go out and get other free agents .

3. Even if a player is available , it doesn't necessarily mean he will get picked. Teams will be busy protecting players , and the dual team carded Rangers and white sox will be early picks by the teams who wish to protect them.

4. Maybe not in all cases, but generally the franchises picked early in the draft are the strongest. They pick later in the first player draft round. The weaker teams will pick earlier in the player draft round 1. Thus, the weaker teams will get to draft earlier in round 1. They have choices they can make - all the more so because of the enhanced free agency.

I think this is logical. We'll see in practice here! But it's too late to change for this league this time . I still feel like this is the best way to do it for the weaker franchises.

Geoff - The logic behind this path makes sense, thanks for taking the time to spell it out.

Now on with the show!
R

Can I trade my pick? I am sure there are a few franchises interested in my pick to protect one of their players also carded to the Angels.

I believe that Geoff said previously that you could not trade picks but I'm not positive on that one. better email or text the Commish. but I think that goes against the concept that Geoff had for the 5-round draft.

^^^ I already ruled somewhere on the other thread (ATG) that there are no trades until the autodraft. After the autodraft trades can be made freely subject only to the 15 core player at all times rule. (There is no roster limit by the way, except strats roster limit). I did consider it again now that the question was posed, but I think for this first go round with this concept, we'll say no trades until after the autodraft. (The main issue is that trades during the 5 round draft tend to mess up the system of draft pick restrictions. I'm not sure if I'm comfortable with that yet - at least not until after the autodraft).