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ANDY'S DEADBALL LEAGUE (TIL 1925)

PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 1:43 pm
by andycummings65
16 seasons, 90m cap, NO DH, using ONLY cards up to and including 1925 (WITH 3-4 LISTED EXCEPTIONS)

We will use the PREWAR SET, with waivers format.

Managers rotate through the 16 teams; 4 teams per season will rotate out
You may place Rotated Out players on your draft card if they played for your team UP TO AND INCLUDING the 1925 season. Remember that other managers may be vying for same the Free Agent you are attempting to draft.

AutoDraft follows Assigned and Do Not Autodraft players listed below. Obviously, the DO NOT AUTODRAFT only applies if the team in question is IN THAT PARTICULAR SEASON. As stated above, You may AUTODRAFT players Assigned to Rotated Out Teams.


Though difficult, you may make a trade, provided the players involved played for both trading partners.

Player disambiguation:
There are two different players named Earl Smith, one is a catcher, one is an infield scrub.
There are two different players, a RP named Socks Seibold and an OF named Socks Seybold.

Each franchise has 3 stadium options, listed below.

ImageBoston Red Sox—any Red Sox player in db or pre with a card 1925 or before
ASSIGNED— Smoky Joe Wood (from Indians), Tris Speaker(from Indians), Candy LaChance (from Indians), Jake Stahl (from Senators)
DO NOT AUTODRAFT— Eddie Cicotte(to White Sox), Larry Gardner(to Indians), Patsy Dougherty (to Yankees), Babe Ruth (to Yankees), Carl Mays (to Yankees)
Stadiums—Huntington Avenue Grounds11, Martin Park(NeL), Fenway41

ImageBoston Braves—any Braves player in db or pre with a card 1925 or before
ASSIGNED—Vic Willis(from Pirates), Jesse Barnes(from Giants), John Clarkson (from Cubs), Hugh Duffy (from Browns), Billy Hamilton (from Phillies)
DO NOT DRAFT—none
Stadiums---South End Grounds11, Braves20, Braves41

ImageBrooklyn Dodgers—any Dodgers player in db or pre with a card 1925 or before
ASSIGNED—Ed Reulbach(from Cubs), Bill Dahlen (from Cubs), Jack Fournier (from Cardinals), Wild Bill Donovan (from Tigers), Milt Stock )from Phillies)
DO NOT AUTODRAFT—Jimmy Sheckard(to Cubs), Bill Doak(to Cardinals), Dutch Ruether (to Reds)
Stadiums---Washington Park11, Ebbetts Field20, Rickwood (NeL)


ImageChicago Cubs---any Cubs player in db or pre with a card 1925 or before
ASSIGNED—Jimmy Sheckard(from Dodgers)
DO NOT AUTODRAFT —Ed Reulbach(to Dodgers), Doc Gessler (to Senators), Jack Harper (to Cardinals), John Clarkson (to Braves), Bill Dahlen (to Dodgers)
Stadiums---West Side Park11, Wrigley41, South Side Park

ImageChicago White Sox---any White Sox player in db or pre with a card 1925 or before
ASSIGNED--- Eddie Cicotte(from Red Sox), Eddie Collins (from A’s), Joe Jackson (from Indians), Nemo Leibold (from Indians)
DO NOT AUTODRAFT —Happy Felsch (to Yankees), RP Dave Danforth(to A’s)
Stadiums---Comiskey11, Schorling Park(NeL), South Side Park(NeL)

ImageCincinnati Reds---any Reds player in db or pre with a card 1925 or before
ASSIGNED—Buck Herzog(from Giants), THE CATCHER Earl Smith (from Pirates, Giants), Jake Stenzel (from Pirates), Jesse Tannehill (from Pirates), Dutch Ruether (from Dodgers), Rube Benton (from Giants)
DO NOT AUTODRAFT ---George Suggs (to Tigers)
Stadiums---Palace of the Fans11, Washington Park(NeL), Crosley41

ImageCleveland Indians—any Indians player in db or pre with a card 1925 or before
ASSIGNED---Nap Lajoie (from A’s), Larry Gardner (from Red Sox)
DO NOT AUTODRAFT—Tris Speaker(to Red Sox), Ray Caldwell(to Yankees), Smoky Joe Wood(to Red Sox), Joe Jackson (to White Sox), Candy LaChance ( to Red Sox), Claude Rossman (to Tigers), Nemo Leibold (to White Sox)
Stadiums---League Park11, Dunn Field, League Park24

ImageDetroit Tigers—any Tigers player in db or pre with a card 1925 or before
ASSIGNED—Claude Rossman (from Indians), George Suggs (from Reds)
DO NOT AUTODRAFT—Wild Bill Donovan (to Dodgers)
Stadiums---Bennett Park11, Mack Park(NeL), Navin Field34

ImageNew York Giants—any Giants player in db or pre with a card 1925 or before
ASSIGNED—1934 Paul Richards
DO NOT AUTODRAFT —P Red Ames(to Cardinals), OF Red Murray(to Cardinals), P Rube Benton(to Reds), P Jesse Barnes(to Braves), Buck Herzog(to Reds), Dave Bancroft (to Phillies), Slim Sallee (to Cardinals), Dummy Taylor (to Browns), Amos Rusie (to Browns), THE CATCHER Earl Smith (to Reds)
Stadiums---Polo11, Polo24, Rickwood Park(NeL)

ImageNew York Yankees—any Yankees player in db or pre with a card 1925 or before
ASSIGNED—P Ray Caldwell(from Indians), Roger Peckinpaugh (from Senators), Babe Ruth (from Red Sox), Patsy Dougherty (from Red Sox), Carl Mays (from Red Sox), Happy Felsch (from White Sox)
DO NOT AUTODRAFT —C Muddy Ruel(to Senators)
Stadiums---Hilltop11, Yankee Stadium(NeL), Polo24

ImagePhiladelphia A’s—any A’s player in db or pre with a card 1925 or before
ASSIGNED—Dots Miller (from Pirates), RP Dave Danforth(from White Sox)
DO NOT AUTODRAFT — RP Stan Baumgartner(to Phillies), Nap Lajoie (to Indians), Eddie Collins (to White Sox)
Stadiums---Shibe11, Baker11, Terrapin Park(NeL)

ImagePhiladelphia Phillies—any Phillies player in db or pre with a card 1925 or before
ASSIGNED—RP Stan Baumgartner(from A’s) , Dave Bancroft ( from Giants)
DO NOT AUTODRAFT —Billy Hamilton (to Braves), Milt Stock (to Dodgers)
Stadiums---Baker11, Penmar Park(NeL), Shibe11

ImagePittsburgh Pirates—any Pirates player in db or pre with a card 1925 or before
ASSIGNED—1927 Hal Rhyne, 1927 Adam Comorosky
DO NOT AUTODRAFT —SS Glenn Wright(to Cardinals), P Vic Willis(to Braves), Roy Sanders(to Browns) , Jesse Tannehill ( to Reds), Dots Miller (to A’s), Jake Stenzel (to Reds), Earl Smith (to Reds)
Stadiums---Forbes09, Forbes11, Greenlee Field(NeL)

ImageSt. Louis Browns—any Browns player in db or pre with a card 1925 or before
ASSIGNED—RP Roy Sanders(from Pirates) , Amos Rusie (from Giants), Dummy Taylor (from Giants)
DO NOT AUTODRAFT —Hugh Duffy (to Braves)
Stadiums—Sportsmans Park11, St. Louis20, Sportsmans20

ImageSt. Louis Cardinals—any Cardinals player in db or pre with a card 1925 or before
ASSIGNED—P Bill Doak(from Dodgers), P Red Ames(from Giants), OF Red Murray(from Giants), Glenn Wright (from Pirates), Slim Sallee (from Giants), 1934 Pat Crawford, 1934 Jim Mooney, Jack Harper (from Cubs), Nig Cuppy
DO NOT AUTODRAFT —Cy Young (to Red Sox), 1b Jack Fournier(to Dodgers)
Stadiums---Robison Field11, St.Louis20, Sportsmans11

ImageWashington Senators—any Senators player in db or pre with a card 1925 or before
ASSIGNED—Doc Gessler (from Cubs), Muddy Ruel(from Yankees)
DO NOT AUTODRAFT — Roger Peckinpaugh (to Yankees), Jake Stahl (to Red Sox)
Stadiums---Griffith11, Griffith Stadium(NeL), Terrapin Park(NeL)

Re: ANDY'S DEADBALL LEAGUE (TIL 1925)

PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 2:09 pm
by andycummings65
RESEARCH HELPS

MOST PRE-1901 CORRELATIONS ARE NATIONAL LEAGUE ONES. AMERICAN LEAGUE DID NOT BEGIN PLAY UNTIL 1901. FOUR "PRE-AL" TEAMS (Cleveland, Detroit, St. Louis Browns, Chicago White Sox) PLAYED IN THE WESTERN LEAGUE, BUT IT WAS NOT CONSIDERED A MAJOR LEAGUE.

ImageBOSTON RED SOX were created and began play in 1901


ImageBOSTON BRAVES-
-1876 Boston Red Stockings
-1883 Boston Beaneaters
-1907 Boston Doves
-1911 Boston Rustlers
-1912 Boston Braves


ImageBROOKLYN DODGERS-
-1884 Brooklyn Bridegrooms
-1899 Brooklyn Superbas
-1911 Brooklyn Dodgers


ImageCHICAGO CUBS-
-1876 Chicago White Stockings
-1890 Chicago Colts
-1898 Chicago Orphans
-1903 Chicago Cubs


ImageCHICAGO WHITE SOX formed as Sioux City of the Western League in 1894, moved to St. Paul, then to Chicago in 1900 before joining the American League in 1901.

ImageCINCINNATI REDS-
-1882 Cincinnati Red Stockings
-1890 Cincinnati Reds



ImageCLEVELAND INDIANS were created in 1894 as a Western League Grand Rapids franchise, moved to Cleveland in 1900 and reconstituted and entered the American League became the Cleveland Blues in 1901. Cleveland Bronchos in 1902. Cleveland Naps in 1903. Cleveland Indians in 1915.


ImageDETROIT TIGERS were created as a Western League franchise in 1894. They entered the American League in 1901.


ImageNEW YORK GIANTS-
-1883 New York Gothams
-1885 New York Giants


ImageNEW YORK YANKEES were created in 1901 as the Ameican League’s Baltimore Orioles. Moved to New York in 1903 and became New York Highlanders. New York Yankees in 1913.


ImagePHILADELPHIA ATHLETICS were created and began play in 1901.


ImagePHILADELPHIA PHILLIES-
-1883 Philadelphia Quakers
-1890 Philadelphia Phillies



ImagePITTSBURGH PIRATES-
-1882 Pittsburgh Alleghenys
-1891 Pittsburgh Pirates


ImageST. LOUIS BROWNS were created in 1894 as the Milwaukee Brewers of the Western League. Milwaukee joined the American League in 1901 and moved to St. Louis to become the Browns in 1902.



ImageST. LOUIS CARDINALS
-1882 St. Louis Brown Stockings, then Browns
-1899 St. Louis Perfectos
-1900 St. Louis Cardinals



ImageWASHINGTON SENATORS were created and began play in 1901.


The following franchises (not an exhaustive list) were disbanded or contracted (the NL contracted 4 teams after the 1899 season) and have no direct link to our 16 Original Franchises:
BALTIMORE ORIOLES were contracted in 1899
WASHINGTON SENATORS were contracted in 1899
CLEVELAND SPIDERS were contracted in 1899
LOUISVILLE COLONELS were contracted in 1899
DETROIT WOLVERINES disbanded in 1889

Re: ANDY'S DEADBALL LEAGUE (TIL 1925)

PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 2:12 pm
by andycummings65
I will get a randomizer run to randomize our manager rotation

Manager List
1. andycummings PA
2. bontomn CA
3. mykeedee WA
4. george barnard TN
5. Roosky NY
6. majicmg FL
7. Dharmabums OH
8. warrenbob MI
9. jkolak NJ
10.thetallguy747 Il
11. Red Beards DE
12.papasturgeon MD

Re: ANDY'S DEADBALL LEAGUE (TIL 1925)

PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 2:15 pm
by andycummings65
TEAM LIST

1. Boston Red Sox
2. Boston Braves
3. Brooklyn Dodgers
4. Chicago Cubs
5. Chicago White Sox
6. Cincinnati Reds
7. Cleveland Indians
8. Detroit Tigers
9. New York Giants
10. New York Yankees
11. Philadelphia A's
12. Philadelphia Phillies
13. Pittsburgh Pirates
14. St. Louis Browns
15. St. Louis Cardinals
16. Washington Senators

Re: ANDY'S DEADBALL LEAGUE (TIL 1925)

PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 5:46 pm
by andycummings65
Random Sequence Generator

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Manager Rotation Order
1. bontomn CA
2. Roosky NY
3. dharmabums OH
4. JKolak NJ
5. warrenbob MI
6. andycummings PA
7.thetallguy747 Il
8. george barnard TN
9. Red Beards DE
10. majicmg FL
11.papasturgeon MD
12. mykeedee WA

Re: ANDY'S DEADBALL LEAGUE (TIL 1925)

PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 5:54 pm
by andycummings65
True Random Number Service

Random Sequence Generator

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Timestamp: 2012-12-12 18:53:18 UTC

TEAM ROTATION ORDER
1. Washington Senators
2. New York Giants
3. Cincinnati Reds
4. Cleveland Indians
5. Philadelphia A's
6. New York Yankees
7. Chicago Cubs
8. St. Louis Cardinals
9. St. Louis Browns
10. Boston Red Sox
11. Chicago White Sox
12. Boston Braves
13. Brooklyn Dodgers
14. Pittsburgh Pirates
15. Detroit Tigers
16. Philadelphia Phillies

Re: ANDY'S DEADBALL LEAGUE (TIL 1925)

PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 5:58 pm
by andycummings65
SEASON #1
Washington Senators - bontomn CA
New York Giants - Roosky NY
Cincinnati Reds - dharmabums OH
Cleveland Indians - JKolak NJ
Philadelphia A's - warrenbob MI
New York Yankees - andycummings PA
Chicago Cubs - thetallguy747 IL
St. Louis Cardinals - george barnard TN
St. Louis Browns - Red Beards DE
Boston Red Sox - majicmg FL
Chicago White Sox - papasturgeon MD
Boston Braves - mykeedee WA

ROTATED OUT:
Brooklyn Dodgers, Pittsburgh Pirates, Detroit Tigers, Philadelphia Phillies

Re: ANDY'S DEADBALL LEAGUE (TIL 1925)

PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 6:00 pm
by andycummings65
You may start researching now if you like. Kevin has expressed interest in us holding off for a little while, and that's fine. I do enjoy taking my time looking through everything in putting the teams together.

Whenever I'm ready to start Season #1, I will set divisions and put Kevin's in the WEST, so when he's ready to go, he can fill. 8-)

Re: ANDY'S DEADBALL LEAGUE (TIL 1925)

PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 7:30 pm
by FRANKMANSUETO
Andy, how is it that I missed this one? I am a little bummed. :(

Re: ANDY'S DEADBALL LEAGUE (TIL 1925)

PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 4:33 pm
by andycummings65
bump