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1. 1992 Cal Eldred Mil SP-7 3L bk-0 wp-7 2e15 hold +1 NO Ballpark HRs on either side of card. 100 IP 14 starts 11-2 1.79era .99whip ROY-4 14-yr career NO CARD. Brewers need better starting pitchers. Very limited on 5-day starters in set, would be their best by far. Great card!
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2. 1966 Sandy Koufax. 27 wins 1.73 ERA. Least amount of HR's on any of his cards. Come on, it's KOUFAX! https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/36594/1660/1/60
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3. 1973 Ron Bryant - went 24-12 and finished 3rd in Cy Young Voting as the NL's only 20-game winner. No Giant pitcher won 20 games for another 15 years. His only current card in ATG is his sub-standard 1971 7-10 season. https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/731478/1670/1/70
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4. 2015 Masahiro Tanaka sp Yankees. 12/7 3.51 era .99 whip https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/500013/2015/1/2015
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5. 1962 Norm Siebern Kansas City A's, 162 games, Should be bullet-proof, .308 .412 .495, career best in avge and HR (25) RBI (117) 7th in MVP - much improvement over other two cards to help hapless A's in franchise play. https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/41048/1660/1/60
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6. 2004 Vladimir Guerrero. MVP. No Angels card exists. .337/.391/.598. https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/453/1700/1/120
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7. 2010 Brian Wilson SF R2 2L bal. NO CARD -4 hold bk-0 wp-0 e0 . 1.81 ERA/1.18 WHIP. Closer for World Champion Giants. Fear the Beard! https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/90786/2010/1/2010
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8. 1998 Ugueth Urbina MON P - All-star season. No Hits on Card. Dale Murray and Tim Burke are largely unaffordable due to a high volume of innings. The 1-inning Urbina should ring in much cheaper. 6+ seasons in Montreal and only has a Florida card. https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/3678/1690/1/90
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9. 1949 Pee Wee Reese Brooklyn. .279/.396/.410. 743 PA's, stellar defense, exceptional base running. Would be his best card.
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10. 1990 Erik Hanson, SEA, Throws-R, Nice 2L Balance, S7* 18-9, 3.24 ERA, 1.15 WHIP. Possessor of a wicked curveball, the Mariners are IN NEED of better SPs. Longest Tenured Mariner without a card. https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/2772/1690/1/90
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11. 1917 Fred Anderson, NYG, RH SP/RP, Led the league in ERA (1.44), ERA+ (177), WHIP (0.963). Went on to become a dentist.
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12. 1968 Frank Howard TEX. We can get him off the waiver wire. This 8L DH demolishes lefties, and still has 8 ball park homeruns vs righties. Won't be expensive because he doesn't do anything else well. Current cards are 1L and 3L. [Note: Mystery card version is not an accurate representation of Howard's 1968 card]
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13. 1912 Johnny Evers, CHC, Bats-L, BAL-E, 2b-1e34, Steal: *4-6,12/-(18-13). .341/.431/.441, .872 OPS. Best Card by a long way for Hall of Famer.
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14. 1925 Jim Bottomley, Cardinals, 1B 2e21, bats L. .367 21 128 .413 .992. Led NL in games played, HITS and DO. Career highs in HITS and DO. Near career highs in games played, BA, RBI, SLG, TB, OBP, OPS & OPS+. This card has higher BA and OBP than Bottomley's 1928 card and would be perfect for smallball, similar to 1921 George Sisler, but with a little more power.
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15. 1923 Dolf Luque, Reds, 27-8, 1.93 ERA, 1.14 WHIP. Best season of his career, his current cards aren't the best representation of his 20-year career. Reds could use some SP help.
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16. 1930 Pie Traynor, Pirates, .366/.423/.509, 3b-1e31, with career highs in Batting Average, OBP, and SLG, this is his best card.
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17. 2003 Craig Wilson PIT Bats-R BAL-6L C-4(0)e1, 1b-4e19, RF/LF-4(-1)e9 INJ Risk-15(2Rating) https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/1239/1700/1/120
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18. 2010 Roy Oswalt PHI 1R, *S7 (Hou/Phi combined 13-13) 211 IP/ 162 hits, 193 K's. PHI EXP needs pitching. https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/90430/2010/1/2010
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19. 1996 Chuck Knoblauch MIN 2B 1e10 Slashline .341/,448/.517 Stealing-AA Led the league in Triples and his BEST BA-OBA-SLG season.
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20. 2021 Brandon Crawford SF. Left hand shortstops are hard to find. 1e12 3r 895 ops https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/91386/2021/1/2021
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21. 1994 Hal Morris CIN 1B .335/.385/.491 .853 OPS https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/3465/1690/1/90
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22. 1971 Mark Belanger, Orioles, SS 1e18, .266 0 35 .365 .320 .685 Career highs in OBP. Near career highs in HITS, R, BA, TB, OPS & OPS+; Gold Glove. Belanger’s best overall card, since the 1969 card is a 2. https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/30727/1971/4/1971
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23. 2021 Whit Merrifield KC. 2B 1e10, zero injury. Good combo of speed and defense. No card. .277/.317/.395 https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/93000/2021/1/2021
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24. 2021 Carlos Rodon CWS SP L-2R, CWS exp needs SP depth, no card 13-5 2.37 ERA/.96 WHIP https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/92770/2021/1/2021
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25. 1923 Arnold Statz Chicago Cubs 154 games in Centerfield. 655 abs 209 hits 33 doubles 8 triples 10 homeruns 56 walks .319/.373/.440/.815
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26. 1974 Bart Johnson Chicago White Sox RH SP 4R 7 inning starter. great card vs righty hitters. https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/735942/1670/1/70 [note: 1974 Bart Johnson is actually a S7 4R starter with a nice card that would be a good add for the exp-era Sox. Can't always go by the mystery card]
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27. 1964 Ron Hansen , White Sox, SS 2 e22, Bats R .261 20 68 .347 .419 .766 Career highs in PA, BA, H, R, 2B, HBP, TB, OPS+. Near career highs in G, HR, RBI, BB, OPS, SLG. 1964 Hansen holds the White Sox single season record for defensive WAR, yet is just a 2 on D. Very underrated. This is a big improvement over Hansen's other ATG card and would give the Post WWII White Sox some power at SS. https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/34928/1964/4/1964
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28. 1885 Roger Connor, NYG 1B. The greatest 19th-century hitter other than Anson and still a top 5 all-time first baseman. His current card is nice but 1885 is his best season and should be a significant upgrade: .371/.435/.495 for a monstrous 200 OPS+.
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29. 1995 Mark Wohlers Atlanta Braves. No card. 2.09 ERA, 1.16 WHIP with a ridiculous K/IP ratio (90 Strikeouts in 64.2 innings) https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/3373/1690/1/90
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30. 2000 Mike Sweeney, Royals 1B 4e13, Bats R .333 29 144 .407 .523 .930 Career highs in G, PA, H, R, HR, RBI, BB, HBP, TB. Near career highs in BA, OPS, SLG. Very underrated. 2000 Sweeney, not George Brett, holds the Royals single season record for RBI with 144. Unlike his injury prone 2002 card, this card is in game injury only. https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/1119/1700/1/120
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31. 2019 Hyn-Jin Ryu, LAD, SP. Throws-L,Bal-2L, non-*, 182.2 innings,163 Ks, 2.32 ERA, 1.01 WHIP. Lead the league in ERA+, finished 2nd in Cy Young voting, gives another strong non-* option for teams using the non-* strategy. https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/91915/2019/1/2019
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32. 1954 Irv Noren. 1.101 OPS against RHP's plus a 1(-2)7 in lf/rf 2cf. All Star year for the Yankees. nice addtion being a platoon player that can also field!
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33. 1970 Duke Sims, CLE, C, LH hitter, 1R, 345 AB, 23 HR, .264/.360/.499. Need a C on the ballot, another lefty catcher in the set, and Duke needs a better card. Deadly HR power vs RHP, incl. a 1-7 BPHR. https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/741095/1670/1/70
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34. 2005 Brian Roberts, Orioles, 2b 1e10, Bats S, 3R .314 18 73 .387 .515 .903 27 SB Career highs in BA, HR, OBP, TB, SLG, OPS, OPS+. Near career highs in H, 2B, 3B & RBI. Would give the Orioles a nice 2nd base and lead off option in franchise leagues, where they usually don't get Alomar. This is a big offensive & defensive improvement over Roberts' other card, which is a 2 on D & never seems to hit well. https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/983/1700/1/120
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35. 2016 Jean Segura, Diamonbacks, 2b 1e6, Bats R, 3R .319 20 64 .368 .499 .867, 33 SB. Career highs in BA, R, H, 2B, HR, RBI, OBP, TB, SLG, OPS, OPS+. Near career highs in triples and stolen bases. Would help the Diamondbacks in franchise leagues. No card https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/91626/2016/1/2016
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36. 2021 Cedric Mullins, BAL, CF 1(0)e7, Bats L, 2R .291/.360/.518. Only 30-30 player in Orioles history! Moves the needle on both sides of the ball. https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/94327/2021/1/2021
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37. 1959 Roger Maris , KC, RF - All star season in KC before being sent to Yankees to shoot at short porch, .273, 16, 72 playing for A's. (Could use another 1950s card in ATG so you can do an 1950's only subset.)
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38. 1936 Gee Walker, OF, Detroit Tigers, solid hitter for years needs a better card, slashed .353/.387/.536 with 55 doubles 12 homers and 17 Steals
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39. 1905 Honus Wagner, PIT, SS -- One of his better years and plus-600 ABs, so limited injury risk -- .363, .427, .505, 32 doubles, 14 triples, 57 stolen bases. Surely SOM would normalize his error ratings like the '08 card. Second highest BA of his career.
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40. 1955 Bob Friend Pittsburgh SP 2.83 ERA 1.14WHIP 200IP Best Card of his career
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41. 1988 Pascual Perez 2.44/0.94 His best year, a big upgrade over his 2 current ATG cards https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/839421/1680/1/80
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42. 1943 Bill Nicholson Chicago Cubs OF .309 BA, .386 OBP, .531 slugging, 29 HR 128 RBI
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43. 1889 Buck Ewing NYG C .327 Avg. .383 OBP .477 Slugging. Hall of Famer that was the best catcher of the 19th Century. Has a card for 1895 Cin 1B 4e14 with good offensive numbers. But made HOF as one of the original Giants @ Catcher
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44. 1984 Dave Kingman Oakland A's .268 35Hr's 118 RBI's 44 Walks .505 SLG% American League's Comeback Player of the Year, and finished 13th in MVP balloting. https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/836423/1680/1/80
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45. 1958 Harry Anderson, Lf-1b, Phillies .301, 23, 97. 11th in OPS across majors. Had two good years (6th in rookie of year in 1957) before ankle injury and trade saw him disappear from the scene by the 1960s. Unique card for 1950s which is dominated by multiples cards of same stars
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46. 1992 Mike Mussina BAL RH SP 18-5, 2.54 ERA 1.079 WHIP, 241 IP. Probably the best season for this HOFer
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47. 1986 Danny Cox STL 220 IP, 12-13, 2.90 ERA, 1.132 Whip, better card than his 1987 .50 https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/32485/1986/1/101
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48. 1980 Buddy Bell, Texas .329 17 83 .379 .498 .877 Gold Glove Career high in BA, SLG, OPS & OPS+. 2nd career high in OBP. This is Bell’s best card. Gives Texas a nice 3B option in franchise leagues when they don’t get A-Rod or Beltre http://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/830734/1680/1/80
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49. 1963 Elston Howard, C. AL MVP. .287/.342/.528. 5 errors and 8 passed balls in 132 games for AL champions. https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/35630/1660/1/60
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50. 1939 Terry Moore STL Bats-R BAL-E CF/LF/RF-1(0)e2 INJ Risk-15
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Re: 23.2 Voting now Open!

PostSun Jun 04, 2023 9:38 am

BC15NY wrote:
tdkearns wrote:I am fascinated by the 35 people who have voted as of today for the 4th Pie Traynor card. Any thoughts as to why anyone would care?


I'd say it's because it's significantly better than his other cards.

Because it's the best season of a hall of famer. All such seasons should be in.
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Re: 23.2 Voting now Open!

PostMon Jun 05, 2023 8:31 am

I voted for Pie Traynor 1930. Grew up in Pittsburgh as a Pirates fan, and this was Pie's best season. Another reason is the 1930 season was an offensive Mount Everest in the history of baseball, as noted above. When SOM does these cards, they can turn out fairly interesting, if you like offense.

1930 league averages were .292 BA, .352 OBP, .426 SA. Amazing!

https://www.baseball-reference.com/leag ... 1930.shtml

Finally, consider my 56 homers, 191 RBIs, .356 BA. :D :mrgreen:
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Re: 23.2 Voting now Open!

PostWed Jun 07, 2023 9:45 am

Definitely looks like ballot fatigue may be keeping vote totals down for some worthies toward the bottom of the list.

Gee, you would think with the paucity of useful catchers that Elston Howard, Buck Ewing, and especially platoon-god Duke Sims would be getting more love.
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Re: 23.2 Voting now Open!

PostFri Jun 09, 2023 5:11 pm

lots of players getting voted in that will never be used.
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Re: 23.2 Voting now Open!

PostFri Jun 09, 2023 5:48 pm

scorehouse wrote:lots of players getting voted in that will never be used.


Who?
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Re: 23.2 Voting now Open!

PostFri Jun 09, 2023 5:57 pm

A list of 12 players, depending on value once they are assigned a salary, as long as they don't appear to be overpriced, I would definitely use in the future, because they are useful and most importantly a significant upgrade from what we currently have: Reese, Anderson, Evers, Luque, Traynor, Crawford, Belanger, Hansen, Roberts, Segura, Wagner and Cox.
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Re: 23.2 Voting now Open!

PostFri Jun 09, 2023 9:12 pm

I think all things considered this will be a nice add. Well get a new card for Koufax , Wagner , Reese , Traynor , Bottomly, all hall of famers , a left handed ss in Crawford and a lot of defense up the middle in the infield. Hopefully we get these cards kinda soon and with the two we’re waiting for I think that this add will go nice with the cards we’re waiting for.
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Re: 23.2 Voting now Open!

PostSat Jun 10, 2023 9:26 am

Unless I counted wrong it’s a three way race for the last spot. Terry Moore (45) , Buddy Bell (44)& Carlos Rodon(42)
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Re: 23.2 Voting now Open!

PostSat Jun 10, 2023 10:31 pm

Reese, Roberts, Bell, Cox, few others but I'll have to see the card/price first
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Re: 23.2 Voting now Open!

PostSat Jun 10, 2023 10:32 pm

Sweeney
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