17.2 FINAL POLL - CLOSED

Discussion for new cards to add; moderated by Rosie2167

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Pick 25 to be added to ATG

Ryne Duren 1958 NYY RP R 1 Yes 10
73
3%
Willie Stargell 1973 PIT LF L 2 No 21
67
3%
Derrek Lee 2005 CHC 1B R 0 Yes 15
56
2%
Vladimir Guerrero 2000 MON RF R 1 No 16
66
3%
Bert Campaneris 1970 OAK SS R 3 No 19
48
2%
Gary Sheffield 1996 FLA RF R 1 Yes 22
56
2%
Jose Vidro 2000 MON 2B S 0 Yes 12
63
3%
Mark Teixeira 2005 TEX 1B S 0 Yes 14
57
2%
BJ Ryan 2006 TOR RP L 0 Yes 11
60
3%
Vernon Wells 2003 TOR CF R 0 Yes 15
57
2%
Nolan Ryan 1991 TEX SP R 3 Yes 27
62
3%
Duke Snider 1954 DOD CF L 2 No 18
55
2%
Mike Norris 1980 OAK SP R 0 Yes 10
41
2%
Reggie Sanders 1995 CIN RF/CF R 0 Yes 17
45
2%
Justin Morneau 2006 MIN 1B L 0 Yes 14
56
2%
Cuckoo Christensen 1926 CIN OF L 0 Yes 2
59
2%
Torii Hunter 2007 MIN OF R 0 Yes 19
43
2%
Manny Ramirez 1999 CLV RF R 2 No 19
56
2%
Hubie Brooks 1985 MON SS R 0 Yes 15
39
2%
Roger Maris 1960 NYY OF L 1 No 12
48
2%
Barry Zito 2002 ATH SP L 0 Yes 15
45
2%
Jeff Russell 1989 TEX RP R 0 Yes 14
44
2%
Chet Lemon 1979 CWS CF R 2 Yes 16
50
2%
Eric Young 1996 COL 2B R 0 Yes 15
47
2%
Cesar Tovar 1970 MIN OF/2B/3B R 1 Yes 12
45
2%
Juan Pierre 2004 FLA CF L 0 Yes 14
55
2%
Clayton Kershaw 2016 DOD SP L 1 No 10
57
2%
Albert Belle 1998 CWS LF R 2 Yes 12
57
2%
Ted Williams 1949 BOS LF L 3 No 19
55
2%
Taylor Douthit 1929 STL CF R 0 Yes 11
40
2%
Glenn Beckert 1971 CHC 2B R 1 No 11
53
2%
JJ Putz 2007 SEA RP R 0 Yes 12
49
2%
Mickey Mantle 1957 NYY CF S 3 No 18
46
2%
John Hiller 1973 DET RP L 3 No 15
33
1%
Bob Watson 1975 HOU 1B/LF R 2 No 19
34
1%
Roy Sievers 1957 WAS 1B/OF R 2 No 17
47
2%
Mike Lowell 2007 BOS 3B R 0 Yes 13
40
2%
Heinie Manush 1928 SLB LF L 1 No 17
45
2%
Carlos Baerga 1993 CLV 2B S 1 No 14
43
2%
Bill Joyce 1894 WAS 3B L 0 Yes 8
41
2%
Dick McAuliffe 1966 DET SS/3B L 2 No 16
33
1%
Luis Aparicio 1970 CWS SS R 3 No 18
42
2%
Ray Durham 1998 CWS 2B S 0 Yes 14
41
2%
Carlos Pena 2007 TB 1B L 0 Yes 14
57
2%
Kent Hrbek 1987 MIN 1B L 1 No 14
37
2%
Johnny Mize 1947 NYG 1B L 2 Yes 15
40
2%
Roger Metzger 1973 HOU SS S 0 Yes 11
45
2%
Placido Polanco 2007 DET 2B R 0 Yes 16
54
2%
 
Total votes : 2382
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Re: 17.2 FINAL POLL - top 25 get in

PostTue May 09, 2017 4:49 pm

Rosie2167 wrote:Some of the voting is a bit of a head scratcher. I'm contemplating a few different voting structures...

1. Give each manager one vote for each ATG team they've played as listed under the manager records (yes I realize there were many years prior to our current recorded history). Or maybe there's tiers, 1-50 teams X votes, 51-99 1.5X, over 100 teams 2X, over 250 teams 3X...A bit radical for some I admit and probably tough to administer, but what I'm trying to solve for is allocating more votes to our most experienced managers without going completely old boys club on the rest of the community.

2. A weighted vote. Each manager has say 25 votes, so Salty can assign all 25 to Cano if he wanted.

3. Combination of 1 and 2

I recognize I'd probably have to quit my job and get a divorce to pull off the above so just dipping my toes in this for the moment.


I think a simpler idea is worth considering. Just because the top 25 vote getters are being added, doesn't mean we need to get 25 votes. I would suggest that we only get 5 votes a piece. How many votes do you think coo coo ca choo would have gotten if people had to use one of their five votes on him? If we only had 5 votes each I would think they would be used more wisely and the cards people really want would be likelier to get in.

Also, I would establish a 5-years in MLB minimum for any future nominations. Seems reasonable to me.

Thanks,
Bill
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Re: 17.2 FINAL POLL - top 25 get in

PostTue May 09, 2017 4:55 pm

BC15NY wrote:
Rosie2167 wrote:Some of the voting is a bit of a head scratcher. I'm contemplating a few different voting structures...

1. Give each manager one vote for each ATG team they've played as listed under the manager records (yes I realize there were many years prior to our current recorded history). Or maybe there's tiers, 1-50 teams X votes, 51-99 1.5X, over 100 teams 2X, over 250 teams 3X...A bit radical for some I admit and probably tough to administer, but what I'm trying to solve for is allocating more votes to our most experienced managers without going completely old boys club on the rest of the community.

2. A weighted vote. Each manager has say 25 votes, so Salty can assign all 25 to Cano if he wanted.

3. Combination of 1 and 2

I recognize I'd probably have to quit my job and get a divorce to pull off the above so just dipping my toes in this for the moment.




I think a simpler idea is worth considering. Just because the top 25 vote getters are being added, doesn't mean we need to get 25 votes. I would suggest that we only get 5 votes a piece. How many votes do you think coo coo ca choo would have gotten if people had to use one of their five votes on him? If we only had 5 votes each I would think they would be used more wisely and the cards people really want would be likelier to get in.

Also, I would establish a 5-years in MLB minimum for any future nominations. Seems reasonable to me.

Thanks,
Bill


Agreed! We get too many votes and it dilutes the value of each vote
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Re: 17.2 FINAL POLL - top 25 get in

PostTue May 09, 2017 6:39 pm

STEVE F wrote:
BC15NY wrote:
Rosie2167 wrote:Some of the voting is a bit of a head scratcher. I'm contemplating a few different voting structures...

1. Give each manager one vote for each ATG team they've played as listed under the manager records (yes I realize there were many years prior to our current recorded history). Or maybe there's tiers, 1-50 teams X votes, 51-99 1.5X, over 100 teams 2X, over 250 teams 3X...A bit radical for some I admit and probably tough to administer, but what I'm trying to solve for is allocating more votes to our most experienced managers without going completely old boys club on the rest of the community.

2. A weighted vote. Each manager has say 25 votes, so Salty can assign all 25 to Cano if he wanted.

3. Combination of 1 and 2

I recognize I'd probably have to quit my job and get a divorce to pull off the above so just dipping my toes in this for the moment.




I think a simpler idea is worth considering. Just because the top 25 vote getters are being added, doesn't mean we need to get 25 votes. I would suggest that we only get 5 votes a piece. How many votes do you think coo coo ca choo would have gotten if people had to use one of their five votes on him? If we only had 5 votes each I would think they would be used more wisely and the cards people really want would be likelier to get in.

Also, I would establish a 5-years in MLB minimum for any future nominations. Seems reasonable to me.

Thanks,
Bill


Agreed! We get too many votes and it dilutes the value of each vote


Maybe 10
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