Nomination Ideas----HiTTERS WITH NO CARDS

what would 2000 Glenallen Hill look like. Pretty sure he had over 300 PA combined Yankees-Cubs

what would 2000 Glenallen Hill look like. Pretty sure he had over 300 PA combined Yankees-Cubs

2000 Glenallen Hill, NYY, Bats-R, BAL-1L, LF-5(+2)e11, 15 Game INJ Risk
LH--2b-0 3b-0.9 HR-16 BB-0 .345/.351/.810, 1.161 OPS
RH--2b-2.2 3b-0 HR-14.8 BB-4 .304/.336/.754, 1.090 OPS

DEADBALL HITTERS NO CARD

Has anyone ever suggested adding Dave Orr, a 1B from the NY Mets, or Harry Stovey, a 1B from the Philadelphia A's in the 1880s American Association?

Orr was the model of consistency at the peak of his career:

Dave Orr 1884: .354/.362/.539 189 OPS+ // 1885: .342/.358/.543 202 OPS+ // 1886: .338/.363/.527 185 OPS+

1884 was the best year for Stovey: .326/.368/.545 185 OPS+

DEADBALL HITTERS NO CARD

Has anyone ever suggested adding Dave Orr, a 1B from the NY Mets, or Harry Stovey, a 1B from the Philadelphia A's in the 1880s American Association?

Orr was the model of consistency at the peak of his career:

Dave Orr 1884: .354/.362/.539 189 OPS+ // 1885: .342/.358/.543 202 OPS+ // 1886: .338/.363/.527 185 OPS+

1884 was the best year for Stovey: .326/.368/.545 185 OPS+

Both are on my list of candidates that I work off of: viewtopic.php?p=5858788#p5858788

Although personally I'd prefer to avoid 1884 non-NL cards as that was the year of the Union Association, which in addition to being a weak league itself, caused the quality of the American Association to crater as well.

In that case I'd recommend 1889 season for Stovey, bulletproof. Either 1885 or 1886 would be a good choice for Orr.

Listed Stovey in an old Deadball Hitters—No Card thread.


1889 Harry Stovey, PHN (not Phillies or A's, it's an old American Association team), Bats-R, 1L Balance, LF-2(-2)e25
LH-- 9 2b, 3.5 3b, 6.3 HR, 15 BB 312/407/685, 1.093 OPS
RH--9 2b, 3.5 3b, 5.5 HR, 16 BB 283/389/626, 1.014 OPS

1891 Harry Stovey, BSB, Bats-R, E Balance, RF-1(-1)e25, LF- 3(-1)e25, 1b-4e30
LH--4.7 2b, 5.5 3b, 5.4 HR, 14 BB 292/390/635, 1.025 OPS
RH--4.7 2b, 5.5 3b, 5.4 HR, 15 BB 295/400/642, 1.041 OPS

Updating the list and assuming 2020 isn’t ever happening

Larry Doyle 1912 Giants
Jake Daubert 1913 Dodgers
Johnny Evers 1914 Cubs
Roger Peckinpaugh 1925 Senators
Mickey Cochrane 1928 As
Frankie Frisch 1931 Cardinals
Mickey Cochrane 1934 Tigers
Hank Greenberg 1935 Tigers
Gabby Hartnett 1935 Cubs
Bucky Walters 1939 Reds
Stan Musial 1943 Cardinals
Joe Dimaggio 1947 Yankees
Roy Campanella 1951 Dodgers
Yogi Berra 1954 Yankees
Yogi Berra 1955 Yankees
Roy Campanella 1955 Dodgers
Elston Howard 1963 Yankees
Roberto Clemente 1966 Pirates
Orlando Cepeda 1967 Cardinals
Pete Rose 1973 Reds
Steve Garvey 1974 Dodgers
Willie Stargell 1979 Pirates
Don Mattingly 1985 Yankees
Barry Bonds 1990 Pirates
Terry Pendleton 1991 Braves
Barry Larkin 1995 Reds
Juan Gonzalez 1998 Rangers
Barry Bonds 2003 Giants
Alex Rodriguez 2003 Rangers
Vlad Guerrero 2004 Angels
Clayton Kershaw 2014 Dodgers
Mike Trout 2014 Angels
Mike Trout 2016 Angels
Mike Trout 2019 Angels
Shohei Ohtani. 2021. Angels
Paul Goldschmidt. 2022. Cardinals
Aaron Judge 2022. Yankees

2009 Kosuke Fukudome

s/b an affordable lefty bat with some pop able to play cf or rf

historical claim: first Cub Japanese inport

https://www.baseball-reference.com/play ... ko01.shtml

2001 Corey Koskie

https://www.baseball-reference.com/play ... co01.shtml

.850 OPS, 26 HRs, 37 2Bs. Rare left-handed-hitting 3B. Twins don't have many 3Bs except Killebrew, who is great but a butcher with the glove.

Updating the list of non carded MVP seasons and assuming 2020 isn’t ever happening (25 remaining)

Larry Doyle 1912 Giants
Jake Daubert 1913 Dodgers
Johnny Evers 1914 Cubs
Roger Peckinpaugh 1925 Senators
Mickey Cochrane 1928 As
Frankie Frisch 1931 Cardinals
Gabby Hartnett 1935 Cubs
Bucky Walters 1939 Reds
Stan Musial 1943 Cardinals
Joe Dimaggio 1947 Yankees
Roy Campanella 1951 Dodgers
Yogi Berra 1954 Yankees
Yogi Berra 1955 Yankees
Roy Campanella 1955 Dodgers
Roberto Clemente 1966 Pirates
Willie Stargell 1979 Pirates
Juan Gonzalez 1998 Rangers
Barry Bonds 2003 Giants
Vlad Guerrero 2004 Angels
Mike Trout 2014 Angels
Mike Trout 2016 Angels
Paul Goldschmidt. 2022. Cardinals
Aaron Judge 2022. Yankees