16.2 Card Add Proposal

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16.2 Card Add Proposal

PostWed Oct 26, 2016 4:51 pm

Hi All,

Here's my proposal for this 25 card add.
1. A balanced add with at least 10 Batters and 10 Pitchers with room to account for ties in the voting.
2. Disallow the franchises that placed 3 or more cards in 16.1. So no A's, Red Sox, White Sox, Tigers, Pirates and Padres. And let's add in the Yankees as well as we know how well represented they are in ATG.
3. Take the vote getters 51-100 from 16.1
4. Add back in the Cy Young and MVP's (yes that means Peavy gets back on the list). This trumps #2
5. Add back in Andy Pettitte, I'm not a Yankee fan but he just deserves a card
6. Each franchise ambassador not listed in #2 above nominates 1 Batter and 1 Pitcher by Tues, Nov 1 (or sooner)

The above formula will give us 50 batters and 50 pitchers to vote on. We'll vote on 10 each to allow for ties.

Below is the current list of nominees based on the above formula.

Batters:
Hunt Ron 1971 EXP/NAT
Braun Ryan 2011 MIL
Tolan Bobby 1970 CIN
Burkett Jesse 1896 CLV
Castilla Vinny 1998 COL
Holiday Matt 2007 COL
Cravath Gavvy 1913 PHI
Flick Elmer 1900 PHI
Goldschmidt Paul 2015 AZ
Berkman Lance 2006 HOU
Beltran Carlos 2003 KCR
Williams Cy 1924 PHI
Dunn Adam 2004 CIN
Carter Joe 1991 TOR
Nixon Otis 1991 BRV
Hidalgo Richard 2000 HOU
Figgins Chone 2009 ANG
Hudson Orlando 2007 AZ
Anson Cap 1884 CHC
Sauer Hank 1952 CHC
Davis Willie 1970 DOD
Longoria Evan 2009 TB
Donaldson Josh 2015 TOR MVP
Burns George H 1926 CLV MVP
Morneau Justin 2006 WAS/MIN MVP
McCutchen Andrew 2012 PIT MVP
Pendleton Terry 1991 BRV MVP

Pitchers:
Mussina Mike 1995 BAL/SLB
McDowell Sam 1965 CLV
Peavy Jake 2007 SD
Johnson Randy 1995 SEA
Lidge Brad 2004 HOU
Putz JJ 2007 SEA
Farrell Turk 1963 HOU
Dotel Octavio 2002 HOU
Balfour Grant 2008 TB
Oswalt Roy 2006 HOU
Schmidt Jason 2003 GIA
Hernandez Felix 2014 SEA
Mesa Jose 1995 CLV
Willis Dontrelle 2005 FLA
Krukow Mike 1986 GIA
Potter Nels 1945 BAL/SLB
Hahn Noodles 1902 CIN
Betancourt Rafael 2007 CLV
Pettitte Andy 1997 NYY
Carpenter Chris 2005 STL CY
Webb Brandon 2006 AZ CY
Zito Barry 2002 A's CY
Hentgen Pat 1996 TOR CY
Dickey RA 2012 NYM CY
Keuchel Dallas 2015 HOU CY
Kluber Corey 2014 CLV CY
Shantz Bobby 1952 A's MVP

good? Any constructive criticism?
Rosie
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Re: 16.2 Card Add Proposal

PostWed Oct 26, 2016 7:57 pm

2003 Vernon Wells: Slash Line - .317/.359./.550 No card.
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Re: 16.2 Card Add Proposal

PostWed Oct 26, 2016 10:43 pm

Not sure about rule #3. Most 1-50 players probably made consensus, but we are on less solid ground for 51-100.

Why not one player per franchise after disallowing 5 franchises, as decided by a vote on each franchise post?
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Re: 16.2 Card Add Proposal

PostThu Oct 27, 2016 2:13 am

MARCPELLETIER wrote:Not sure about rule #3. Most 1-50 players probably made consensus, but we are on less solid ground for 51-100.

In reviewing the voting from 16.1 the average per poll was 48 voters if we assume they all cast 25 votes each. So 51-100 absolutely obtained consensus, the break point was rank 111.

Having managed the voting process once before leveraging our previous run in some fashion seems like a prudent play.
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Re: 16.2 Card Add Proposal

PostThu Oct 27, 2016 10:16 pm

The list is great...Let's vote!

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