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Pre War Outfielders-- NO CARD Edition

PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2019 9:53 pm
by andycummings65
Many have said that we don't know what we are getting when we nominate cards, so I've taken some time to put some stats together from some cards, using Diamond Dope and Veterans 1975 for the park, since it's kind of neutral (10,10,10,10). I asked Bill for his permission/blessing to do this. So I'll be posting some card add ideas, thoughts, etc to hopefully keep interest up and give folks some stuff to actually discuss on the boards.

1942 Wally Judnich, SLB, Bats-L, 1R Balance, CF/LF/RF-2(-1)e4
LH--3.8 2b, 1.4 3b, 4.6 HR, 19 BB 332/456/563, 1.019 OPS
RH--4.3 2b, 1.5 3b, 5 HR, 19 BB 370/487/623, 1.110 OPS
After 3 seasons was on his way to a strong career, then lost 3 years to WWII and was never the same. Good combination of power and OBP, can play all 3 OF spots

1938 Johnny Rizzo, PIT, Bats-R, 6L Balance, LF-3(0)e17
LH--8.6 2b, 2.1 3b, 11.8 HR, 20 BB 531/627/1090, 1.716 OPS
RH--4.9 2b, 2.3 3b, 6.6 HR, 11 BB 313/396/621, 1.016 OPS
His Rookie Year was a strong one, finished 6th in MVP Voting, Look at those numbers vs LHP Again.....

1937 Moose Solters, CLE, Bats-R, 1L Balance, LF/CF/RF-4(0)15
LH--8.5 2b, 2.6 3b, 6.9 HR, 3 BB 389/412/720, 1.132 OPS
RH--8 2b, 2.5 3b, 6.5 HR, 3 BB 370/394/683, 1.076 OPS
Good bat to add to Pre War pool

1921 Whitey Witt, PHA, Bats-L, E Balance, LF/RF/CF-3(+2)13
LH--4.2 2b, 1.8 3b, 0.3 HR, 13 BB, 384/463/475, .938 OPS
RH--4 2b, 1.8 3b, 0.3 HR, 13 BB, 392/471/481, .952 OPS

Re: Pre War Outfielders-- NO CARD Edition

PostPosted: Tue Feb 26, 2019 6:58 am
by FRANKMANSUETO
Deb Garms - 1940 Pittsburgh Bats(L) Balance(2R) OF-4e16(+2) 3B-4e25 .355/.395/.500
Harvey Hendrick - 1929 Brooklyn Bats(L) Balance(1R) OF-4e11(+1) 1B-3e27 3B-4e65 .354/.404/.560

Re: Pre War Outfielders-- NO CARD Edition

PostPosted: Tue Feb 26, 2019 2:16 pm
by ratioman2
Al Wingo 1925 Detroit 370/456/527

Re: Pre War Outfielders-- NO CARD Edition

PostPosted: Tue Feb 26, 2019 11:23 pm
by andycummings65
FRANKMANSUETO wrote:Deb Garms - 1940 Pittsburgh Bats(L) Balance(2R) OF-4e16(+2) 3B-4e25 .355/.395/.500
Harvey Hendrick - 1929 Brooklyn Bats(L) Balance(1R) OF-4e11(+1) 1B-3e27 3B-4e65 .354/.404/.560


1940 Debs Garms, PIT, Bats-L, 2R Balance, 3b-4e25, LF/CF/RF-4(+2)e16
LH--6.4 2b, 2.5 3b, 1.7 HR, 4 BB 380/409/540, .948 OPS
RH--8 2b, 3.3 3b, 2 HR, 4 BB 475/500/674, 1.174 OPS
I like Garms, led league in batting. Only usable at 3b.

1929 Harvey Hendrick, BKN, Bats-L, 1R Balance, LF/CF/RF-4(+1)e11, 1b-3e27, SS-4e88, 3b-4e65
LH--6.4 2b, 1.8 3b, 5.2 HR, 6 BB 399/48/651, 1.088 OPS
RH--7.3 2b, 1.8 3b, 5.7 HR, 6 BB 444/480/721, 1.201 OPS
Only usable at 1b, I think you can get those numbers from quite a few current 1b.

Re: Pre War Outfielders-- NO CARD Edition

PostPosted: Tue Feb 26, 2019 11:26 pm
by andycummings65
ratioman2 wrote:Al Wingo 1925 Detroit 370/456/527


1925 Al Wingo, DET, Bats-L, E Balance, LF/RF/CF-4(0)e11
LH--8.3 2b, 3 3b, 0.5 HR, 18 BB 478/569/677, 1.241 OPS
RH--8.3 2b, 3 3b, 1 HR, 18 BB 478/569/671, 1.241 OPS
His ONLY year as a starter. I tend to shy away from things like that. A guy who had one season compared to Heinie Manush or somebody who did it season after season...…..

Re: Pre War Outfielders-- NO CARD Edition

PostPosted: Thu Mar 07, 2019 8:38 am
by george barnard
1942 Glenn McQuillan 283/306/425

Re: Pre War Outfielders-- NO CARD Edition

PostPosted: Fri Mar 08, 2019 12:29 pm
by andycummings65
george barnard wrote:1942 Glenn McQuillan 283/306/425



1942 Glenn McQuillen, SLB, Bats-R, E Balance, LF-3(0)e10, RF/CF-4(0)e10
LH--4.5 2b, 6.6 3b, 0.6 HR, 0 BB 295/301/476, .778 OPS
RH--4.3 2b, 6.3 3b, 0.6 HR, 0 BB 291/297/464, .761 OPS
Not a useful card, and was a part time starter in 1942. Never had a meaningful season again. NO

Re: Pre War Outfielders-- NO CARD Edition

PostPosted: Wed Mar 13, 2019 5:11 pm
by djp_77
Austin McHenry 1921

Re: Pre War Outfielders-- NO CARD Edition

PostPosted: Mon Mar 18, 2019 4:15 pm
by andycummings65
djp_77 wrote:Austin McHenry 1921



1921 Austin McHenry, STL, Bats-R, E Balance, CF/LF/RF-2(-2)e14
LH--7.8 2b, 1.2 3b, 5.5 HR, 6 BB 433/470/697, 1.167 OPS
RH--7.6 2b, 1.3 3b, 5.5 HR, 6 BB 428/465/692, 1.157 OPS

Five seasons into a promising career, McHenry started having trouble with his eyesight in the 1922 season. The Cardinals sent him home to rest, and a brain tumor was later detected. McHenry died a couple months later.
The guy was a lifetime .302 hitter in 4+ seasons, and I think that this would be a good add.