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19.3 Voting now Open!

PostPosted: Sun Apr 28, 2019 3:21 pm
by BC15NY
Choose your Top 15 cards. The top 24 vote getters (plus 1917 Ty Cobb) will be sent to Strat at the conclusion of the voting. Poll open for 10 days.

Card STRAT stats with comparisons, comments, etc., available via Andy's post (stats for each nominated card inserted below).

Thanks,
Bill

1999 Fred McGriff, TB, Bats-L, 4R Balance, 1b-4e17, 3 Game INJ Risk
LH—1.8 2b, 1 3b, 7 HR, 13 BB 180/279/441, .720 OPS
RH--6.8 2b, 0 3b, 7.9 HR, 17 BB 387/483/722, 1.205 OPS

1968 Andy Messersmith CAL, Throws-R, S6, 1L Balance
LH—4 2b, 0 3b, 0 2b, 10 BB 041/130/082, .211 OPS
RH--0.9 2b, 2 3b, 0 HR, 16 BB 032/175/085, .261 OPS
Did the above in 5 starts, 81 IP.

1922 Ray Grimes, CHC, Bats-R, E Balance, 1b-4e21, 15 Game INJ Risk
LH--11.3 2b, 3 3b, 3.8 HR, 18 BB 441/539/761, 1.301 OPS
RH--10.8 HR, 3 3b, 3.6 HR, 18 BB 429/529/739, 1.268 OPS

2009 Adrian Gonzalez SD, Bats-L, 5R Balance, 1b-1e7, 3 Game INJ Risk
LH—3 2b, 1 3b, 7.3 HR, 18 BB 252/391/558, .949 OPS
RH—4 2b, 0 3b, 15 HR, 25 BB 386/539/991, 1.530 OPS

1969 Ollie Brown, SD, Bats-R, 5L Balance, RF-2(-4)e8, 3 Game INJ Risk
LH--0 2b, 1.2 3b, 12 HR, 14 BB 366/454/778, 1.232 OPS
RH--3.4 2b, 0.2 3b, 3.2 HR, 5 BB 260/301/389, .690 OPS

1930 George Watkins, STL, Bats-L, 5R Balance, LF/RF-3(-1)e15, CF-4(-1)e15, 15 Game INJ Risk
LH--16.2 2b, 3.5 3b, 0 HR, 0 BB 289/302/508, .810 OPS
RH--8.7 2b, 1.3 3b, 8.8 HR, 5 BB 459/494/832, 1.327 OPS

1972 Gary Nolan, CIN, Throws-R, 3L Balance, S7 (most likely no *)
LH—1 2b, 1.4 3b, 1.4 HR, 2 BB 117/134/192, .325 OPS
RH-- 6.2 2b, 0 3b, 2.6 HR, 0 BB 204/204/332, .536 OPS

1977 Bobby Bonds, CAL, Bats-R, 1L Balance, RF-2(-4)e5, Steal: *2-6,11/-(17-15), 3 Game INJ Risk
LH—0 2b, 2.1 3b, 14.4 HR, 13 BB 263/359/765, 1.124 OPS
RH--4.1 2b, 2 3b, 8 HR, 15 BB 264/373/613, .985 OPS

2001 Bob Wickman, CLE, Throws-R, 5R Balance, R1
LH—0 2b, 2.6 3b, 0 HR, 7 BB 249/297/300, .597 OPS
RH—2.8 2b, 0 3b, 0 HR, 0 BB 138/138/164, .302 OPS

2012 Kris Medlen, ATL, Throws-R, E Balance, S7/R3
LH—2.1 2b, 0.8 3b, 0 HR, 2 BB 128/144/163, .307 OPS
RH—2 2b, 0 3b, 0 HR, 1 BB 133/141/152, .293 OPS

2017 Nolan Arenado COL , Bats-R, 9L Balance, 3b-1e10, In Game INJ Only
LH--11.5 2b, 0.8 3b, 17 HR, 7 BB 570/602/1.210, 1.811 OPS
RH--7.8 2b, 2 3b, 5.3 HR, 10 BB 285/357/568, .925 OPS

1998 Orlando Hernandez, NYY, Throws-R, 8R Balance, S7 (doubt he gets the *)
LH—5.2 2b, 0.8 3b, 2.8 HR, 12 BB 250/333/407, .741 OPS
RH--1.8 2b, 0 3b, 0 HR, 9 BB 041/121/060, .181 OPS

2016 DJ LeMahieu, COL, Bats-R, E Balance, 2b-1e6, 3 Game INJ Risk
LH—9.5 2b, 2.1 3b, 1.4 HR, 18 BB 402/507/600, 1.107 OPS
RH-- 4.4 2b, 2.4 3b, 5 HR, 8 BB 481/524/725, 1.249 OPS

1988 Bobby Witt, TEX, Throws-R, 1L Balance, S8(doubt he gets the *)
LH—0.2 2b, 1.1 3b, 0 HR, 21 BB 124/294/150, .444 OPS
RH--0.9 2b, 0.4 3b, 3.6 HR, 22 BB 101/284/246, .530 OPS

2007 Bobby Jenks CWS, Throws-R, 4R Balance, R1
LH--0 2b, 0 3b, 0 HR, 0 BB 161/161/161, .321 OPS
RH—0 2b, 0 3b, 0 HR, 0 BB 024/024/024, .048 OPS

2009 Nick Punto, MIN, Bats-S, 1L Balance, 2b-2e5, SS-2e21, 3b-2e11, Steal: *4,5/-(19-12)
LH--2.8 2b, 0 3b, 1.6 HR, 17 BB 189/325/274, .598 OPS
RH--1.6 2b, 0 3b, 0 HR, 22 BB 168/345/186, .531 OPS

1897 Fred Clarke, LOU, Bats-L, 2R Balance, LF-2(+1)e25, CF-3(+1)e25, Steal: *3-6/-(18-13), 15 Game INJ Risk
LH—4.3 2b, 3.6 3b, 0.9 HR, 7 BB 368/462/523, .985 OPS
RH--7.5 2b, 3.6 3b, 1.4 HR, 7 BB 465/544/671, 1.215 OPS

1976 Ron Leflore, DET, Bats-R, 2L Balance, CF-3(0)e14, Steal: *6-8/-(18-15), 15 Game INJ Risk
LH--5.3 2b, 3.3 3b, 1.4 HR, 13 BB 431/505/601, 1.105 OPS
RH--3.5 2b, 1.5 3b, 1.4 HR, 8 BB 345/400/454, .854 OPS

2007 Russ Springer, STL, Throws-R, 7R Balance, R1
LH—6.3 2b, 4.3 3b, 0 HR, 8 BB 150/213/298, .510 OPS
RH—0 2b, 0 3b, 0 HR, 8 BB 000/074/000, .074 OPS

1989 Mickey Tettleton, BAL, Bats-S, E Balance, C-3(+1)e1, 3 INJ Rating
LH--1.8 2b, 0 3b, 11.3 HR, 21 BB 152/317/560, .877 OPS
RH--3.4 2b, 0.5 3b, 8.8 HR, 23 BB 274/429/636, 1.065 OPS

1986 Ron Hassey, CWS, Bats-L, 4R Balance, C-4(+1)e6, 3 INJ Rating, 15 Game INJ Risk
LH—8 2b, 0 3b, 0 HR, 10 BB 278/358/361, .719 OPS
RH--9.5 2b, 0 3b, 3.7 HR, 15 BB 412/505/638, 1.143 OPS

2012 Adrian Beltre, TEX, Bats-R, 5R Balance, 3b-1e10, 3 Game INJ Risk
LH—2.1 2b, 0 3b, 4.2 HR 1 BB 278/298/418, .716 OPS
RH—7 2b, 0.3 3b, 10 HR, 3 BB 422/449/787, 1.236 OPS

1941 Elmer Riddle, CIN, Throws-R, 2R Balance, S9/R5 (may get *, it’ll be close)
LH—5.4 2b, 0 3b, 0.4 HR, 4 BB 180/210/243, .453 OPS
RH--0.6 2b, 0.8 3b, 1.1 HR, 5 BB 116/157/168, .325 OPS

1962 Floyd Robinson, CWS, Bats-L, 3R Balance, RF/LF-3(-1)e9, 3 Game INJ Risk
LH--6.3 2b, 2.3 3b, 1.4 HR, 9 BB 265/333/417, .750 OPS
RH--10.9 2b, 2.5 3b, 1 HR, 10 BB 379/442/574, 1.016 OPS

1974 Don Money, MIL, Bats-R, 2R Balance, 3b-1e5, 2b-4e17, In Game INJ Risk
LH—4.7 2b, 0 3b, 2.6 HR, 6 BB 260/308/383, .691 OPS
RH—6 2b, 0.8 3b, 2.6 HR, 11 BB 281/361/440, .801 OPS

1991 Bobby Bonilla, PIT, Bats-S, E Balance, RF-3(-1)e4, 1b-4e7, 3b-4e37
LH--5.9 2b, 0.2 3b, 10.2 HR, 8 BB 310/368/682, 1.050 OPS
RH--11.5 2b, 1.6 3b, 0.2 HR, 24 BB 379/523/561, 1.084 OPS

1991 Rick Aguilera, MIN, Throws-R, E Balance, R1
LH--0.8 2b, 0.6 3b, 0.9 HR, 14 BB 061/183/111, .294 OPS
RH--5.1 2b, 1.5 3b, 0 HR, 6 BB 086/137/165, .302 OPS

1941 Thornton Lee, CWS, Throws-L, 2L Balance, S9*
LH—3 2b, 0.6 3b, 0.4 HR, 2 BB 125/141/175, .316 OPS
RH--3.1 2b, 0.3 3b, 2.2 HR, 6 BB 171/217/272, .489 OPS

1969 Ken Tatum, CAL, Throws-R, 2R Balance, R3
LH—5.2 2b, 0.8 3b, 0 HR, 9 BB 082/158/151, .309 OPS
RH—0 2b, 0 3b, 0 HR, 16 BB 007/154/007, .160 OPS

1997 Rusty Greer, TEX, Bats-L, E Balance, LF/RF-2(-1)e13, CF-3(-1)e13
LH--10.7 2b, 0 3b, 4.1 HR, 20 BB 368/488/629, 1.117 OPS
RH--6.4 2b, 0.6 3b, 5 HR, 13 BB 395/474/636, 1.109 OPS

1954 Smoky Burgess, PHI, Bats-L, 8R Balance, C-4(+1)e9
LH--4.2 2b, 0 3b, 0 HR, 0 BB 256/256/294, .550 OPS
RH--11.4 2b, 2.1 3b, 2.7 HR, 11 BB 496/547/740, 1.287 OPS

1962 Al Kaline, DET, Bats-R, E Balance, RF-1(-4)e6
LH--8.3 2b, 1.2 3b, 10.5 HR, 22 BB 346/479/837, 1.316 OPS
RH--7.7 2b, 2.6 3b, 11.8 HR, 9 BB 351/405/836, 1.241 OPS

1933 Pepper Martin, STL, Bats R, E Balance, 3b-3e26, Stealing: *4-6,12/-(18-13)
LH--6.6 2b, 3 3b, 1.6 HR, 14 BB 399/482/586, 1.068 OPS
RH--6.4 3b, 3 3b, 1.7 HR, 14 BB 394/478/582, 1.059

1981 Andre Dawson, MON, Bats-R, 2L Balance, CF-1(-2)e11, Steal:*2-5/-(19-14), 15 Game INJ Risk
LH--5.7 2b, 0 3b, 14.1 HR, 0 BB 375/398/837, 1.235 OPS
RH--0.5 2b, 1 3b, 15 HR, 3 BB 330/370/800, 1.173 OPS

1954 Minnie Minoso, CWS, Bats-R, 1R Balance, LF-1(-2)e9, RF-2(-2)e9, CF-3(-2)e8, 3b-4e26
LH--2.6 2b, 5.2 3b, 2.2 HR, 13 BB 397/503/617, 1.120 OPS
RH--6.7 2b, 4.9 3b, 5.4 HR, 13 BB 409/513/774, 1.287 OPS

1959 Dick Stuart, PIT, Bats-R, 3L balance, 1b-4e30, LF-4(+3)e16
LH--4.6 2b, 0 3b, 13.5 HR, 12 BB 443/510/917, 1.427 OPS
RH--2.4 2b, 0.9 3b, 11.5 HR, 8 BB 349/403/740, 1.143 OPS

1917 Eddie Cicotte, CWS, Throws-R, E Balance, S9*/R5
LH--0.5 2b, 0.2 3b, 0.2 HR, 1 BB 109/117/123, .240 OPS
RH--0.5 2b, 0.2 3b, 0.2 HR, 1 BB 107/115/121, .235 OPS

2011 Jacoby Ellsbury, BOS, Bats-L, 2R Balance, CF-1(0)e0, Steal: *2-6,11,12/-(17-13), IN Game INJ Risk
LH--12.3 2b, 2.4 3b, 4.4 HR, 7 BB 327/389/636, 1.025 OPS
RH--6.5 2b, 0 3b, 9.6 HR, 7 BB 418/472/778, 1.250 OPS

1945 Johnny Dickshot, CWS, Bats-L, E Balance, LF/RF/CF-3(0)e10, Steal: *4-6,12/-(18-13), 15 Game INJ Risk
LH--3.4 2b, 3.2 3b, 0.7 HR, 9 BB 327/389/447, .836 OPS
RH--3.2 2b, 3.2 3b, 0.8 HR, 9 BB 320/383/441, .825 OPS

1974 Steve Busby, KC, Throws-R, 1R Balance, S8*
LH--3.8 2b, 0.6 3b, 0 HR, 11 BB 226/305/277, .582 OPS
RH--5 2b, 0.4 3b, 1.5 HR, 5 BB 199/236/299, .535 OPS

HOLDOVERS FROM PREVIOUS VOTES

1991 Otis Nixon, ATL, Bats-S, 1L Balance, CF/LR/RF-2(+2)e5, Steal: *2-7,11/-(18-16), 15 Game INJ Risk
LH—5 2b, 0 3b, 0 HR, 14 BB 347/438/401, .838 OPS
RH—0 2b, 0 3b, 0 HR, 11 BB 328/402/328, .730 OPS

1920 Buck Weaver, CWS, Bats-R, 2R Balance, 3b-2e37, SS-3e31, 3 Game INJ Risk
LH—4.7 2b, 2 3b, 0.3 HR, 6 BB 340/389/435, .823 OPS
RH--6.5 2b, 1 3b, 0.5 HR, 0 Bb 423/433/517, .950 OPS

1993 Mike Stanley, NYY, Bats-R, 2L Balance, C-3(-1)e1, 15 Game INJ Risk
LH—1.2 2b, 0 3b, 12.6 HR, 20 BB 362/492/815, 1.306 OPS
RH—3 2b, 0.2 3b, 6.5 HR, 11 BB 361/438/602, 1.040 OPS

1968 Stan Bahnsen, NYY, Throws-R, 1R Balance, S8*/R4
LH—3.3 2b, 0.6 3b, 1.5 HR, 4 BB 186/216/272, .487 OPS
RH--4.9 2b, 0.9 3b, 0.4 HR, 5 BB 149/188/225, .413 OPS

2014 Michael Brantley, CLE, Bats-L, 2R Balance, LF-1(-2)e1, CF-2(-2)e1, 3 Game INJ Risk
LH—6.6 2b, 0.2 3b, 3 HR, 10 BB 367/444/534, .978 OPS
RH—10.5 2b, 0 3b, 4.7 HR, 6 BB 408/457/656, 1.113 OPS

1988 Juan Agosto, HOU, Throws-L, 9L Balance, R2
LH—0 2b, 0 3b, 0 HR, 0 BB 000/028/000, .028 OPS
RH--2.9 2b, 2.5 3b, 3.6 HR, 3 BB 255/275/433, .708 OPS

1964 Bob Allison, MIN, Bats-R, 2L Balance, 1b-4e20, RF/LF-3(-1)e3/, CF-4(-1)e3, 15 Game INJ Risk
LH—7.5 2b, 0.6 3b, 12 HR, 28 BB 368/549/948, 1.497 OPS
RH--4.9 2b, 0.8 3b, 7.7 HR, 23 BB 345/502/704, 1.207 OPS

2003 Eric Chavez, OAK, Bats-L, 4R Balance, 3b-1e15, 3 Game INJ Risk
LH—0.6 2b, 0.5 3b, 7 HR, 7 BB 185/238/408, .646 OPS
RH--10.5 2b, 1.3 3b, 6.6 HR, 9 BB 364/417/695, 1.112 OPS

1985 Donnie Moore, CAL, Throws-R, 7L Balance, R2
LH—1.6 2b, 0.2 3b, 0 HR, 1 BB 143/150/160, .311 OPS
RH—0 2b, 0 3b, 4.6 HR, 1 BB 300/306/427, .733 OPS

1993 Paul Molitor, TOR, Bats-R, 3L Balance, 1b-4e21, IN Game INJ Risk
LH—8.6 2b, 1.8 3b, 4.6 HR, 18 BB 458/553/740, 1.294 OPS
RH--4.6 2b, 0.6 3b, 3.1 HR, 12 BB 375/450/533, .983 OPS

Re: 19.3 Voting now Open!

PostPosted: Mon Apr 29, 2019 5:58 pm
by andycummings65
1933 Pepper Martin, what's not to like?

He'd be an excellent smallball player, I predict in the 6m range, making him affordable, he Steals, he's a 17 Runner, his defense is very usable, he's not a big injury risk, he hits well and has very good OBP.

Re: 19.3 Voting now Open!

PostPosted: Wed May 01, 2019 10:07 pm
by The Last Druid
Clarke shouldn't be a 15 game injury risk, he shouldn't even be a three game injury risk, he played every game his team played. But SOM has demonstrated a stunning inconsistency with injuries and this would be just another travesty. Still, Andy even if you are correct and I am sure that you are because you have access to all the cards (for that $10 per month that SOM charges for the privilege) he still has at most 1 point of injury risk, unlike his current card which has two points.

Re: 19.3 Voting now Open!

PostPosted: Thu May 02, 2019 11:41 am
by andycummings65
The Last Druid wrote:Clarke shouldn't be a 15 game injury risk, he shouldn't even be a three game injury risk, he played every game his team played. But SOM has demonstrated a stunning inconsistency with injuries and this would be just another travesty. Still, Andy even if you are correct and I am sure that you are because you have access to all the cards (for that $10 per month that SOM charges for the privilege) he still has at most 1 point of injury risk, unlike his current card which has two points.


You’re right, Bruce, he has a 1 INJ Rating. My pattern has been to only list if a player has more than a 1 INJ Rating, along with whether they are a Bulletproof, an in game Risk only, a 3 game Risk, or a 15 game Risk. (Although I started doing this a while back and may not have listed them all that way in earlier listings.)