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23.1 Voting Now Open!

PostPosted: Fri Mar 03, 2023 12:26 pm
by BC15NY
Greetings,

Poll is up for the 23.1 new card add.

Andy's Strat Stats posted at the link below. Please take time to check them out before voting.

viewtopic.php?f=25&t=652505

Thanks,
Bill

Re: 23.1 Voting Now Open!

PostPosted: Fri Mar 03, 2023 6:10 pm
by southpawcom
Stumping for John Jaso. An 8R lefty stick at Catcher with passable defense for probably around the $1.50M-$2M range would be a beautiful, beautiful thing. If you vote for Maas, you should vote for Jaso for the same reasons. Thank you.

https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/91236/2012/1/2012

Re: 23.1 Voting Now Open!

PostPosted: Fri Mar 03, 2023 9:43 pm
by BC15NY
I like Jaso, but I don't think we will get him in that price range.

Since we're stumping for catchers, the Rays can really use Mike Zunino. Their best catcher is Navarro at 2.67.

Re: 23.1 Voting Now Open!

PostPosted: Fri Mar 03, 2023 9:46 pm
by hollywood
1913 Tris Speaker BOS CF -- career high in triples (22) and .441 OBP, .363 BA, 46 steals. Should be elite defense and speed.

From the "informed decisions" thread, defense is CF/LF/RF-1(-4)e25. Elite? No.

25 errors is way too much. I cannot see anyone choosing this Speaker card over his others. Please use your vote for someone else more deserving.

Re: 23.1 Voting Now Open!

PostPosted: Sat Mar 04, 2023 12:00 pm
by southpawcom
hollywood wrote:
1913 Tris Speaker BOS CF -- career high in triples (22) and .441 OBP, .363 BA, 46 steals. Should be elite defense and speed.

From the "informed decisions" thread, defense is CF/LF/RF-1(-4)e25. Elite? No.

25 errors is way too much. I cannot see anyone choosing this Speaker card over his others. Please use your vote for someone else more deserving.


That is a dreadful lot of errors. He'd need an arm that good just recovering all the balls that got through him.

When voting, I favor the guys with no cards. I also play primarily the low-cap formats, and so new "pieces and parts" are always most welcome.

From that perspective, we desperately need more lefty hitting SS with low salaries, but I'm not sure many exist. '66 Dick McAuliffe would be a nice add as a hitter, but the defense might be too shaky.

Re: 23.1 Voting Now Open!

PostPosted: Sat Mar 04, 2023 12:10 pm
by STEVE F
1966 McuAliffe looks pretty good as a 3bman though! :)

Re: 23.1 Voting Now Open!

PostPosted: Sun Mar 05, 2023 8:31 am
by BC15NY
I like that McAuliffe card as a lefty 3b. Good power and OBP.

Glad to see the early support for the holdover 2000 Andruw Jones card. Plays much differently than his 2005 version. He deserves a second card with the career he had.

Re: 23.1 Voting Now Open!

PostPosted: Sun Mar 05, 2023 10:17 am
by muellerinwesttn
My pitch for Gene Tenace. A catcher who is an on-base machine. From Mr. Cummings projections:

1977 Gene Tenace, SD, Bats-R, BAL-2R, C-4(+1)e7, 1b-3e5, 3b-4e41, 15 Game INJ Risk (Only 1 INJ Rating)

LH—2b-5 3b-0 HR-3.5 BB-31 .126/.425/.344, 0.770 OPS
RH—2b-4.1 3b-1.4 HR-4 BB-38 .250/.556/.545, 1.101 OPS


There are many cards we vote in that simply aren't played. This card will be used often!

Re: 23.1 Voting Now Open!

PostPosted: Sun Mar 05, 2023 11:17 am
by BC15NY
And Tenace would be a nice addition for the Padres, as they don't have a lot of options at catcher...

Re: 23.1 Voting Now Open!

PostPosted: Sun Mar 05, 2023 9:46 pm
by Hack Wilson
Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't the deadball era players' error ratings "normalized" to play across eras in SOM? So the 1913 Speaker would have a much better "e" rating than e25.

Tris' 1912 card has an e4 rating, but he actually had 18 errors that year. I also see where the 1906 Nap Lajoie has an e11 rating, but in real life he actually had 21 errors at 2B that year. I could go on, but seems this is the case.

If so, yes, vote for Tris! :D