how much prep do you put into the draft?

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how much prep do you put into the draft?

PostFri Feb 28, 2025 4:05 pm

Ratings book?
MLB splis?
Web sites?
other?

Don't tell my boss...I have a lot of down time so I spend a lot of time parsing the numbers...
color coding spreadsheets into tiers...reading about prospects...etc
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Re: how much prep do you put into the draft?

PostMon Mar 03, 2025 10:56 am

If it's a keeper league w/prospects, that adds a hefty additional dimension to league dynamics. Not only do you have to research prospects but you have to weigh how likely your set of prospects will succeed in graduating to mlb w/a decent card. And of course the trading of said prospects/picks for guys w/actual cards.

This (https://www.royalsreview.com/2011/2/14/1992424/success-and-failure-rates-of-top-mlb-prospects) is a great study for assessing potential prospect success rates.
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Re: how much prep do you put into the draft?

PostMon Mar 03, 2025 11:29 am

toshiro wrote:If it's a keeper league w/prospects, that adds a hefty additional dimension to league dynamics. Not only do you have to research prospects but you have to weigh how likely your set of prospects will succeed in graduating to mlb w/a decent card. And of course the trading of said prospects/picks for guys w/actual cards.

This (https://www.royalsreview.com/2011/2/14/1992424/success-and-failure-rates-of-top-mlb-prospects) is a great study for assessing potential prospect success rates.


interestiing chart... http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/543825/Prospect_Performance_by_Quintile_medium.png
little differnece for ranks 40-100 ...it validates my usual go to of picking a prospect who has a shot of playing this year (in AA or AAA and on a team with a "need"). I consider them churnable....

thanks for sharing the article...
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Re: how much prep do you put into the draft?

PostMon Mar 03, 2025 11:58 am

Outstanding article, thanks for sharing
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Re: how much prep do you put into the draft?

PostMon Mar 03, 2025 1:07 pm

little differnece for ranks 40-100 ...it validates my usual go to of picking a prospect who has a shot of playing this year (in AA or AAA and on a team with a "need").


From the article, there is a big difference between hitters and pitchers when it comes to the curve shape. For the hitters, success rates are higher at every quintile than pitching by a good margin and the downward line is consistent.

For pitchers, the drop off is fairly sharp after the first 20, and then if flatlines from 20 - 100. So if you're gonna pick pitchers, probly best to use late picks vs early. Anecdotally, seems like breakthrough pitchers come from any round:

Logan Webb: Drafted 4th rd
Turnbull: 2nd rd
Pepiot: 3rd rd
Pivetta: 4th rd
Glasnow: 5th rd

While a ton of 1st round pitchers, make an impact, a lot of guys seem to "come out of nowhere"-- Baseball America didn't pick them up nor did anyone (hence no one picked them up in our prospect drafts). Somehow, pitchers just make spontaneous breakthroughs that allow them to survive the Darwinian wittling down and make it to the next level-- even to mlb level. Really makes it seem that all the BA writers and everyone else don't actually know things when it comes to pitchers. Their words don't actually predict success.

Hitters still have a lot of variability and unpredictability, but top draft picks quite frequently become the impact players.

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