The state of the trade market

I was not embarrassed at all, but I did erase it all as I was to stop feeding the troll in you, but I will never do that again. I can admit being wrong, something you cannot seem to do.

So you are back to selecting reading are you?

We are all still waiting to hear about how the ratings guide provides an unfair advantage. Please enlighten us all on this. There is your question address it one way or another and MAN UP if you have it in you.

Firstly, try to avoid mega-all caps. It makes you look even more unhinged.

And of course you were embarrassed. Once you've responded, you've responded. So, erasing didn't keep you from "feeding the troll" as you say. And the only troll is you; you proved that with all of your troll posts on my Jon Niese thread. The fact you didn't show any of those posts had anything to do with Jon Niese means I wasn't having selective reading at all.

And I will debate the ratings guide issue with you on these conditions:

1. We have the debate on a new thread you can start. This is the trade market thread; it's not fair to everyone else to hijack it.

2. We have a polite discussion. That means no name-calling and no hostility. Whoever is right should win without it.

So, start the thread, and i'll be there. If you continue the talk here, I truly will ignore you for a long while.

IF I WANT YOUR OPINION HOW I WRITE IN THIS OR ANY OTHER THREAD I WILL ASK FOR IT.

PLEASE IGNORE ME FOREVER, WHAT A JOKE, YOU HAVE SELECTIVE READING, YOU WILL NOT CHANGE.

ITS ALWAYS ABOUT BEING RIGHT WITH YOU ISN'T IT, CANNOT ACCEPT BEING WRONG, YOU CANNOT ADMIT IT.

AS FAR AS THE RATING GUIDE GOES, THERE HAS BEEN MUCH DISCUSSED AND YOU LEFT THE DISCUSSION, AS YOU COULD NOT ADDRESS THE QUESTION AS TO HOW THE RATINGS GUIDE PROVIDES AN ADANTANGE, THERE ARE MANY PEOPLE, INCLUDE J-Pav (you know the one who you spoke of in the Player's Championship tour debrief recently regarding ratings guide) and myself, WOULD LOVE TO HEAR THE REASONS. YOU HAVE YET TO PROVIDE ANY TO THIS POINT. SO MAN UP AND PROVIDE FACTS OR ADMIT YOUR MISTAKE. FUNNY HOW YOU CAN COMMENT ON A RATINGS GUIDE BUT HAVE STATED YOU DO NOT HVE ONE

You really blew it, lakeviewduchy. I was all set to answer your question as you wanted, but you had to go postal again...in your typical maniacal all-caps...

Goodbye, little one. I truly won't be reading your posts for now on, and I couldn't care less if you believe me or not.

You really blew it, lakeviewduchy. I was all set to answer your question as you wanted, but you had to go postal again...in your typical maniacal all-caps...

Goodbye, little one. I truly won't be reading your posts for now on, and I couldn't care less if you believe me or not.

LOL, ALWAYS A COWARD, YOU HAD NO ANSWER OTHERWISE YOU WOULD HAVE SHOT YOUR MOUTH OFF.

The Marlins sent Sp Mat Latos and 1b Micheal Morse to the Dodgers for 3 as-yet-unnamed minor league pitchers. Although Latos has had a poor year for the Marlins, he has had a spiking in velocity and could help LA at the back end of the rotation behind Greinke, Kershaw, and Anderson. Velocity spike aside, it is still disappointing to see Latos' career at this point, considering he and Bumgarner were once the two best minor league pitchers in baseball. The Dodgers also, reportedly, receive a competitive balance draft pick, which is also a nice addition. Morse seems to have minimal use for the D's and could be released.

The Marlins return is obviously not clear yet. However, they did dump the majority of Morse' s (who had lost his 1b job to rookie Justin Bour) contract, which should help them in the off-season. They also end their frustrations with Latos' season. They gave up a solid young starter--Anthony DeSclafani--for him, thinking he would flourish at the front end of the rotation. Instead he went 4-7 with a 4.48 ERA...hardly what they (or many people) were expecting from him.

Another good and interesting baseball related thread becoming useless from petty disputes.

Back to topic. I do not understand most of the Hamels talk I hear on local Dallas media. All the clamoring for Rangers to get Hamels. And national media saying Rangers are considered among top 2 or 3 teams in the running.

As I understand he has a no trade clause with a list of teams he can be traded to and Rangers are NOT on the list.
I cannot see him waiving the clause to come to the situation that is the current Rangers.

And I do not understand why the Rangers would want him this year. They are not going to be making a serious playoff run this year. I understand his contract would keep him here for additional years. But if they want a $25 mil pitcher they could spend that money in almost any off season and lock in whatever the best pitcher for that year is. And they would not have to give up any prospects to do that. Just do not understand why any team would give up multiple top prospects and take on a huge contract like this one. Team gets off to a bad start and they spend all next June and July trying to find a team to dump the contract on.

Proposal. We all starve the troll starting now. No responses to him on any thread, regardless of whether he started the thread or not. No responses means no responses. Deal?

If the post is actually strat or baseball related I welcome and plan to participate in all such discussions.
However, I think from this point on all the petty squabbles I am going to add anyone who participates/contributes to those to foe list so I only see stuff from people trying to contribute something useful/positive.

If I were Hamels, and had that much control over where I wanted to play/live, why would I go to Texas to play in hitters parks in the heat? I think the Dodgers are very much in the running for him. BUT I was thinking about it this morning and here is my prediction: Puig and something incidental to Detroit for Price and Cespedes

I think Latos is a good get for LA. When healthy he has been a good pitcher, and he has a 2.96 ERA and 43/9 K/BB ratio over 45 2/3 innings since returning from the disabled list.

As I understand he has a no trade clause with a list of teams he can be traded to and Rangers are NOT on the list. I cannot see him waiving the clause to come to the situation that is the current Rangers.

And I do not understand why the Rangers would want him this year. They are not going to be making a serious playoff run this year. I understand his contract would keep him here for additional years. But if they want a $25 mil pitcher they could spend that money in almost any off season and lock in whatever the best pitcher for that year is. And they would not have to give up any prospects to do that. Just do not understand why any team would give up multiple top prospects and take on a huge contract like this one. Team gets off to a bad start and they spend all next June and July trying to find a team to dump the contract on.

Hamels already said no to going to Boston, which would have given him great endorsement and playoff opportunities. So, I don't see him giving the thumbs up to Arlington either. I think he wants to stay in the Nl, which gives my Giants a chance.

As to why the Rangers would want to trade for him this year, they have great reason to do so. Hamels has 4 years on his contract at a solid price for an ace-caliber starter. They would be set at the front of their rotation for years with him and Darvish, and wouldn't have to negotiate against other teams for his services. Also, while Alfaro, Mazara, and Williams are all solid prospects, they aren't blue-chip future stars. Giving up two of them, and a few mid-range ones, to lock up a #2-#1 starter for 41/2 would be an excellent move for Texas.

Another good and interesting baseball related thread becoming useless from petty disputes.

Its not a petty dispute, its been going on for sometime, l.stretcher cannot backup his statements regarding the ratings guide, he ha provided no FACTS in the matter. He is dead wrong, knows it and will not address it and will not admit it, just like Tom Brady. He an say he put me on ignore, but he still reads all the posts, he had even implied that he does. He even brought it up in a Player's Championship thread to J-Pav, and he admits that he has never purchased or used one, but he knows all about them. So when he is man enough to address it, I will stop asking for it.

As I suggested the Mets getting Johnson and Uribe made it possible to move Wilmer Flores. It's being reported that the Mets have traded Zack Wheeler and Flores to Milwaukee for Carlos Gomez. Wheeler obviously the big get for Milwaukee and Flores can replace Ramirez at 3b. As good as Wheeler could be given the emergence of Syndergaard and Matz to go with deGrom and Harvey they could afford to move him. Gomez is what the Mets hope Lagares will be but isn't yet. Now they don't need him to be and given his shoulder issues it would not surprise me if he was shut down for the rest of the season