The state of the trade market

As I suggested the Mets getting Johnson and Uribe made it possible to move Wilmer Flores. It's being reported that the Mets have traded Zack Wheeler and Flores to Milwaukee for Carlos Gomez. Wheeler obviously the big get for Milwaukee and Flores can replace Ramirez at 3b. As good as Wheeler could be given the emergence of Syndergaard and Matz to go with deGrom and Harvey they could afford to move him. Gomez is what the Mets hope Lagares will be but isn't yet. Now they don't need him to be and given his shoulder issues it would not surprise me if he was shut down for the rest of the season

Love this move for the Metsies!!

Yep Gomez is a huge get for the offense starved Mets. Wheeler is a pitcher any team would want but the Mets are so deep in SP's he was expendable.

Bizarrely the Mets have left Flores in at SS even after this deal has become public. Been shown crying going out to play SS in the current inning. I am flabbergasted they have left him in. Mind blowing.

Bizarrely the Mets have left Flores in at SS even after this deal has become public. Been shown crying going out to play SS in the current inning. I am flabbergasted they have left him in. Mind blowing.

Yeah it's the "twitter age" I guess. I have negative feelings towards social media anyway, and this is just another example of why.

OTOH, "There's no crying in baseball!"

As I suggested the Mets getting Johnson and Uribe made it possible to move Wilmer Flores. It's being reported that the Mets have traded Zack Wheeler and Flores to Milwaukee for Carlos Gomez. Wheeler obviously the big get for Milwaukee and Flores can replace Ramirez at 3b. As good as Wheeler could be given the emergence of Syndergaard and Matz to go with deGrom and Harvey they could afford to move him. Gomez is what the Mets hope Lagares will be but isn't yet. Now they don't need him to be and given his shoulder issues it would not surprise me if he was shut down for the rest of the season

Considering Flores was playing Ss, I'm not sure Johnson and Uribe necessarily "freed" Flores. I don't exactly see the Mets nixing a trade for Gomez to keep Flores, whether they had those players or not. They did already have Murphy and Tejeda, as well as Herrera and Cecchini in the minors, so he didn't really need "freeing."

And if the Mets are actually hoping for Lagares to become Gomez, they will probably have to wait awhile. Gomez always had significant power potential; Lagares does not. This is from BA's last scouting report on Lagares:

"Geared to swing first and ask questions later, he goes outside his preferred hitting zone frequently but still manages to make hard, line-drive contact enough to hit for a solid average. He’ll occasionally flash deep home run power to his pull side, though after hitting six homers in 168 Double-A games, his power is mostly to the gaps."

Considering he's also never hit more than 9 hrs in 9 professional seasons. Gomez expectations would be a bit high.

Flores had actually been moved to 2b he's at SS tonight to give Tejeda a day off as they really don't have another SS on the roster, something they'll need to address one way or another assuming this deal is in fact final. Tejeda has reall started hitting more like he did three years ago the season Reyes left and had assertive himself as the everyday SS. With Wrights injury Murphy moved to third from second and Wilmer to 2b. The Mets have used Johnson at 2b the last three games so yes the acquisition of Johnson and Uribe freed up either Murphy or Foores to be moved.

As for the Mets opinion on Lagares, perhaps they weren't expecting as much power but if you check their stats (Gomez's and Lagares') at he same points in their careers they are remarkably similar.

Flores had actually been moved to 2b he's at SS tonight to give Tejeda a day off as they really don't have another SS on the roster, something they'll need to address one way or another assuming this deal is in fact final. Tejeda has reall started hitting more like he did three years ago the season Reyes left and had assertive himself as the everyday SS. With Wrights injury Murphy moved to third from second and Wilmer to 2b. The Mets have used Johnson at 2b the last three games so yes the a question of Johnson and Uribe freed up either Murphy or Foores to be moved.

The fact they've used the players this way doesn't change the fact that the acquisition of those players didn't "free" Flores to be moved in an important trade. As I said before, they already had Murphy, Tejeda, Herrera, and Cecchini. So to get Gomez, they would have made do without Flores.

As for the Mets opinion on Lagares, perhaps they weren't expecting as much power but if you check their stats (Gomez's and Lagares') at he same points in their careers they are remarkably similar.

Power is a big part of Gomez' game; so, if they were expecting Lagares to be Gomez, they would have been expecting power. And having same stats at the same point of their careers is irrelevant to their actual potentials...which are different. Greg Maddux had similar stats with lots of bad pitchers at the beginning of his career; it certainly didn't mean they had the same potential.

You win again.

How silly of me.

I'm cool with that.

I'm cool with that.

That's completely shocking.