Season 2012 fielding ranking previews

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Re: Season 2012 fielding ranking previews

PostTue Dec 11, 2012 1:13 am

The Biomechanical Man wrote:gbrookes,
Thanks a lot for posting the info. Like others, I'm not into twitter.

geekor,
I'm sure you make valid points, but the only thing I ever notice on your posts is your GIF video. :roll:


Glad I'm not the only having having difficulties reading his posts :)
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Re: Season 2012 fielding ranking previews

PostTue Dec 11, 2012 3:01 am

Jerlins wrote:
The Biomechanical Man wrote:gbrookes,
Thanks a lot for posting the info. Like others, I'm not into twitter.

geekor,
I'm sure you make valid points, but the only thing I ever notice on your posts is your GIF video. :roll:


Glad I'm not the only having having difficulties reading his posts :)


I watch her for awhile and then I watch her some more and then I move on without reading anything he siad. :shock:
Yes I know I spelled said wrong because she isn't on my post yet. :lol:
The msaegse is waht mttares msot!
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Re: Season 2012 fielding ranking previews

PostTue Dec 11, 2012 3:22 pm

Jerlins wrote:
The Biomechanical Man wrote:gbrookes,
Thanks a lot for posting the info. Like others, I'm not into twitter.

geekor,
I'm sure you make valid points, but the only thing I ever notice on your posts is your GIF video. :roll:


Glad I'm not the only having having difficulties reading his posts :)


I don't have any problem reading his posts. I read them all the time.
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Re: Season 2012 fielding ranking previews

PostTue Dec 11, 2012 3:26 pm

rburgh wrote:These tweets are much ado about nothing. They give you two guys per team, and often they're guys you expected to be bad fielders, and they are. Anyone out there think Raul Ibanez was going to be a 2 in LF?


From twitter today:
"Strat-O-Matic Games ‏@StratOMatic
Full 2012 Baseball Range Ratings Preview will be posted on Thursday afternoon."

Didn't say where they would be posted. I guess we should check around on Thursday PM. Hopefully they just post them in a spot where we can see them easily on this discussion board!!!
:)
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Re: Season 2012 fielding ranking previews

PostWed Dec 12, 2012 12:42 pm

The Biomechanical Man wrote:...


geekor,
I'm sure you make valid points, but the only thing I ever notice on your posts is your GIF video. :roll:


I only read the articles...umm, posts. I only read the posts.

Actually, once I was getting ready to block the picture because it was so distracting, but I just couldn't bring myself to do it.
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Re: Season 2012 fielding ranking previews

PostThu Dec 13, 2012 1:10 pm

So the full ratings preview just came out and the first thing I noticed is how on God's green Earth can Aaron Hill be a 2 at 2B?

It bother me i looked deeper into it and the only 1's are
Bos - Dustin Pedroia
CHW - Gordon Beckham
NYY - Robinson Cano
CHC - Darwin Barney
CIN - Brandon Phillips
PHI - Freddy Galvis
WAS - Danny Espinosa

For this I am going to throw out Galvis just cause of the limited chances but besides that Hill had a better or equal fielding % than all of them but Barney.

Only Barney had a higher range factor and it was only by .1

Also Hill did this with fielding the most Total Chances at 2B in the MLB.

The only thing I can possibly think they look at, and even this doesn't make sense total sense because of Beckham, is the dWAR because -
Pedroia - 1.4
Beckham - -.2 (yes thats a negative)
Cano - 1.9
Barney - 3.7
Phillips - 1.6
Espinosa - 1.3

with Hill only being at a .2

So if any of you have an idea I'd love to hear it cause Hill was a stud last year and in my mind deserved a 1.
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Re: Season 2012 fielding ranking previews

PostThu Dec 13, 2012 2:20 pm

SS - 2 or better Range
HARDY J.J. 1
IGLESIAS JOSE 2
RAMIREZ-1 ALEXEI 2
CABRERA ASDRUBAL 2
ESCOBAR ALCIDES 1(B2)
AYBAR ERICK 2
DREW-2 STEPHEN 2
PENNINGTON CLIFF 2
RYAN BRENDAN 1
BRIGNAC REID 2
ANDRUS ELVIS 1
ESCOBAR YUNEL 2
McDONALD JOHN 2
JANISH PAUL 2
SIMMONS ANDRELTON 1
WILSON JACK 2
COZART ZACK 2
TULOWITZKI TROY 2
REYES JOSE 2
GONZALEZ-4 ALEX 2
TEJADA RUBEN 2
GALVIS FREDDY 2
ROLLINS JIMMY 1
BARMES CLINT 2
CABRERA EVERTH 2
CRAWFORD BRANDON 1(B2)
DESMOND IAN 2
ESPINOSA DANNY 2(B3)

2B - 2 or better Range
ANDINO ROBERT 2(B3)
PEDROIA DUSTIN 1
BECKHAM GORDON 1
INFANTE-2 OMAR 2
IZTURIS MAICER 2
KENDRICK HOWIE 2
CARROLL JAMEY 2
CANO ROBINSON 1
PENNINGTON CLIFF 2
ACKLEY DUSTIN 2
RODRIGUEZ SEAN 2
ZOBRIST BEN 2(B3)
HILL AARON 2
McDONALD JOHN 2
BARNEY DARWIN 1
PHILLIPS BRANDON 1
VALDEZ WILSON 2
HERRERA JONATHAN 2
ELLIS MARK 2
INFANTE-1 OMAR 2
GALVIS FREDDY 1
UTLEY CHASE 2
WALKER NEIL 2
DESCALSO DANIEL 2
AMARISTA ALEXI 2
FORSYTHE LOGAN 2(B3)
SCUTARO MARCO 2
ESPINOSA DANNY 1

CF - 2 or better Range
JONES-1 ADAM 1
ELLSBURY JACOBY 2
LIN CHE-HSUAN 2
REPKO JASON 2
SWEENEY RYAN 2
DANKS JORDAN 2
WISE DeWAYNE 2
BRANTLEY MICHAEL 2
BERRY QUINTIN 2
JACKSON AUSTIN 1
CAIN LORENZO 2
DYSON JARROD 2
BOURJOS PETER 1
TROUT MIKE 1
REVERE BEN 1
SPAN DENARD 2
GRANDERSON CURTIS 2(B1)
SUZUKI ICHIRO 2
CRISP COCO 2
GUTIERREZ FRANKLIN 2
SAUNDERS MICHAEL 2
FULD SAM 2
JENNINGS DESMOND 2
UPTON B.J. 2
GENTRY CRAIG 2(B1)
GOSE ANTHONY 2
RASMUS COLBY 2
PARRA GERARDO 2
YOUNG CHRIS 1(B2)
BOURN MICHAEL 1
CAMPANA TONY 2
JACKSON BRETT 2
STUBBS DREW 1(B2)
FOWLER DEXTER 2
BARNES BRANDON 2
MAXWELL JUSTIN 2
SCHAFER JORDAN 2
GWYNN TONY 2
VICTORINO SHANE 2
BONIFACIO EMILIO 2
HERNANDEZ GORKYS 2
GOMEZ CARLOS 1(B2)
TORRES ANDRES 2
McCUTCHEN ANDREW 1
JAY JON 2(B1)
MAYBIN CAMERON 1
VENABLE WILL 2(B2)
BLANCO GREGOR 2
PAGAN ANGEL 2
BERNADINA ROGER 2
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Re: Season 2012 fielding ranking previews

PostThu Dec 13, 2012 3:27 pm

azpanthers11 wrote:So the full ratings preview just came out and the first thing I noticed is how on God's green Earth can Aaron Hill be a 2 at 2B?

It bother me i looked deeper into it and the only 1's are
Bos - Dustin Pedroia
CHW - Gordon Beckham
NYY - Robinson Cano
CHC - Darwin Barney
CIN - Brandon Phillips
PHI - Freddy Galvis
WAS - Danny Espinosa

For this I am going to throw out Galvis just cause of the limited chances but besides that Hill had a better or equal fielding % than all of them but Barney.

Only Barney had a higher range factor and it was only by .1

Also Hill did this with fielding the most Total Chances at 2B in the MLB.

The only thing I can possibly think they look at, and even this doesn't make sense total sense because of Beckham, is the dWAR because -
Pedroia - 1.4
Beckham - -.2 (yes thats a negative)
Cano - 1.9
Barney - 3.7
Phillips - 1.6
Espinosa - 1.3

with Hill only being at a .2

So if any of you have an idea I'd love to hear it cause Hill was a stud last year and in my mind deserved a 1.



Sometimes a player will get moved down to account for overall team defense. You have to remember at it's core, Strat is supposed to be a replay/simulation of the latest season played. Meaning that by using the cards and dice and playing the same schedule that was played in real baseball, the results should be very accurate to what happened in real life. It may be a case of factoring in for pitchers cards, the ball park effects and/or other fielders. Strat doesn't just flat out look at the defensive metrics and assign their ratings based on that, if they did they'd be easy to predict.
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Re: Season 2012 fielding ranking previews

PostThu Dec 13, 2012 3:44 pm

Ninersphan wrote:
azpanthers11 wrote:So the full ratings preview just came out and the first thing I noticed is how on God's green Earth can Aaron Hill be a 2 at 2B?

It bother me i looked deeper into it and the only 1's are
Bos - Dustin Pedroia
CHW - Gordon Beckham
NYY - Robinson Cano
CHC - Darwin Barney
CIN - Brandon Phillips
PHI - Freddy Galvis
WAS - Danny Espinosa

For this I am going to throw out Galvis just cause of the limited chances but besides that Hill had a better or equal fielding % than all of them but Barney.

Only Barney had a higher range factor and it was only by .1

Also Hill did this with fielding the most Total Chances at 2B in the MLB.

The only thing I can possibly think they look at, and even this doesn't make sense total sense because of Beckham, is the dWAR because -
Pedroia - 1.4
Beckham - -.2 (yes thats a negative)
Cano - 1.9
Barney - 3.7
Phillips - 1.6
Espinosa - 1.3

with Hill only being at a .2

So if any of you have an idea I'd love to hear it cause Hill was a stud last year and in my mind deserved a 1.



Sometimes a player will get moved down to account for overall team defense. You have to remember at it's core, Strat is supposed to be a replay/simulation of the latest season played. Meaning that by using the cards and dice and playing the same schedule that was played in real baseball, the results should be very accurate to what happened in real life. It may be a case of factoring in for pitchers cards, the ball park effects and/or other fielders. Strat doesn't just flat out look at the defensive metrics and assign their ratings based on that, if they did they'd be easy to predict.


That's all I needed! That makes perfect sense.

Thank you kind sir.

What a shame since he had such a great year!
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Re: Season 2012 fielding ranking previews

PostSat Dec 15, 2012 1:11 pm

fredpaii wrote:Poor Billy Butler. Was he really that bad at 1B?


No, he was not! :shock: :evil: :? I watched most of the Royals games on television last year and Butler mostly DH'd. When he did play 1B he did a good job. Only 3 errors in 165 innings. I don't recall him making any terrible plays. He was solid, just not as good a fielder as Hos. I'd have given him a 3 rating.

As a base runner though he was as slow as a shopping mall.
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