How and Why Billy Beane Blew It

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ClowntimeIsOver

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Re: How and Why Billy Beane Blew It

PostSun Jun 28, 2015 1:29 am

though maybe a fluke, that Vogt/Phegley combo is amazing -- they have OPS+ of 161 and 155, respectively, for a total salary of less than $1.1 million!

They are ages 31 and 27, so if this isn't a fluke, it's quite a coup for Beane's deal-making -- they both have at least a few more good years, and neither is arb-eligible for a while, IIUC
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Re: How and Why Billy Beane Blew It

PostSun Jun 28, 2015 8:24 am

ClowntimeIsOver wrote:They are ages 31 and 27, so if this isn't a fluke, it's quite a coup for Beane's deal-making -- they both have at least a few more good years, and neither is arb-eligible for a while, IIUC

Purchasing Vogt from the Rays was consummate Beane deal-making, one of the best of his many excellent deals. Acquiring Phegley, however, wasn't. As I mentioned earlier, Beane acquired Phegley in the deal for Samardzija...who cost him Addison Russell and Billy McKinney. So, he was a solid acquisition in a (so-far) mediocre deal caused by a bad deal.

Beane is an excellent GM, who has made many excellent deals. The chain of Samardzija deals are not examples of them.
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Re: How and Why Billy Beane Blew It

PostSun Jun 28, 2015 10:56 am

Who could've predicted that Vogt, Panik, Kiermaier, and Forsythe would be top 30 players at the season's half way point.
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Re: How and Why Billy Beane Blew It

PostSun Jun 28, 2015 1:24 pm

Kiermaier?
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Re: How and Why Billy Beane Blew It

PostMon Jun 29, 2015 10:26 pm

Fangraphs ranks Kiermaier as baseball's best defensive performer so far this season.
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Re: How and Why Billy Beane Blew It

PostTue Jun 30, 2015 6:57 am

Yeah, he is great defensively...but his offense has been less than average, IMO.
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