CUT THROAT LEAGUE... gbrookes PLEASE load!!!

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Re: CUT THROAT LEAGUE... PLEASE LOAD YOUR SQUADS!!

PostWed Nov 11, 2015 3:24 pm

FRANKMANSUETO wrote:To think that SOM will not fix this card issue for what can be about 20 cards total. It's NOT like we are talking 100's. It is ONLY about 20!! :shock: :o Talk about LAZY!!!!


Remember, I'm the one who asked for this set.

The issue isn't fixing 20 cards. It's what it would do to all open leagues and saved data.

each player has a playerid, I'm not going to look up the actual numbers for this example.

Say Pujols has playerid 2716 in the 07 game. When they did the 08 game, they gave him 2564, same in the 09 game. When they did the 10-14 games they went back to giving him 2716. So now, when looking at all the data across seasons at once, he has 2 cards, one for id 2716 and one for 2564.

So, the playerID is the non-changing ID that ties the player to his stats, team, card data, etc in the database. This is always needed you need this to tie different parts of different tables together. So just go with it, trust me on this one. By changing that ID all saved data now points to something that doesn't exist. All live current leagues all point to something that doesn't exist. You would break all live and old saved leagues. You can't just change it willy nilly.

Now, I know what you're going to say next. Update all those to point to the new playerID. That part is where Strat is Lazy. Assuming (again assume, I have no idea) that there is already another player with that ID, you have to change them first. Then change the other one. It's not an easy endeavor, one that could literally ruin the games if not done right. It's not worth the risk for a specialty sub-set that doesn't need to be played. The risk is not worth the reward in this case.

That's why I haven't mentioned any anger in this. I understand the programming side of it better. If they had better programmers, that would be different, but I know they don't.
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Re: CUT THROAT LEAGUE... PLEASE LOAD YOUR SQUADS!!

PostWed Nov 11, 2015 3:30 pm

btw, that is all known form the URL manipulation. It's the same way I cheat and learn about the cards and prices before the game goes live. Just change the URL. Example, here is the URL for McCutchen from a current 2014 league:

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http://onlinegames.strat-o-matic.com/player/90841/2014/1/3014/428173


You see the player ID (90841) the year in 2 places (2014 and 3014) and the league ID (428173). If you take the year and change it, you can see the card for another year (change it to 2013/1/3013). Now same thing works the other way, if you change it to 2015/1/3015 you would see the 2015 card (once they are loaded into the game).

the old TSN site was worse. you could view everything by URL manipulation, other league FA list, other emails, even send trade offer to teams in other leagues. The current site is much better, but still can't hide everything.
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Re: CUT THROAT LEAGUE... PLEASE LOAD YOUR SQUADS!!

PostWed Nov 11, 2015 4:58 pm

geekor wrote:Each player has a playerid, I'm not going to look up the actual numbers for this example.

Say Pujols has playerid 2716 in the 07 game. When they did the 08 game, they gave him 2564, same in the 09 game. When they did the 10-14 games they went back to giving him 2716. So now, when looking at all the data across seasons at once, he has 2 cards, one for id 2716 and one for 2564.


That's just the hidden Column 'A' in the Excel downloads you can get from the Player Set Browser page. I too understand why they can't just change them to suit our needs, but couldn't they at least give us a list of all the affected players? At least then we'd know what to watch for.

Never mind... I'll just do it myself.
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Re: CUT THROAT LEAGUE... PLEASE LOAD YOUR SQUADS!!

PostWed Nov 11, 2015 5:22 pm

Can't argue with what you said Geekor. Good points and the URL change I have known about for some time know. I think I stumbled upon that back in ATG 3 when they were going to implement ATG 4.
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Re: CUT THROAT LEAGUE... gbrookes & CATom PLEASE load!!!

PostWed Nov 11, 2015 7:14 pm

So here's the complete list of all players with split links:

PITCHERS:
Batista, Miguel: 2007-08 and 2009-12
Burnett, A.J.: 2007-08 and 2009-14
Byrd, Paul: 2007-08 and 2009
Colon, Bartolo: 2007-08 and 2009-14
Dempster, Ryan: 2007-08 and 2009-13
Dotel, Octavio: 2007-08 and 2009-12
Farnsworth, Kyle: 2007-08 and 2009-13
Gonzalez, Edgar: 2007-08 and 2009
Guardado, Eddie: 2008 and 2009
Halladay, Roy: 2007-08 and 2009-13
Hampton, Mike: 2008 and 2009
Hawkins, LaTroy: 2007-08 and 2009-14
Hernandez, Livan: 2007-08 and 2009-12
Hoffman, Trevor: 2007-08 and 2009-10
Howry, Bob: 2007-08 and 2009-10
Hudson, Tim: 2007-08, 14 and 2009-13
Johnson, Randy: 2007-08 and 2009
Looper, Braden: 2007-08 and 2009
Lowe, Derek: 2007-08 and 2009-12
Martinez, Pedro: 2008 and 2009
Meche, Gil: 2007-08 and 2009-10
Miller, Trever: 2007-08 and 2009-10
Millwood, Kevin: 2007-08 and 2009-12
Moehler, Brian: 2007-08 and 2009-10
Mota, Guillermo: 2007-08 and 2009-11
Nathan, Joe: 2007-08 and 2009-14
Oliver, Darren: 2007-08 and 2009-13
Park, Chan Ho: 2008 and 2009-10
Pavano, Carl: 2008 and 2009-12
Pettitte, Andy: 2007-08 and 2009-13
Ponson, Sidney: 2007-08 and 2009
Reyes, Dennys: 2008 and 2009-10
Rhodes, Arthur: 2008 and 2009-11
Rivera, Mariano: 2007-08 and 2009-13
Rodriguez, Francisco: 2007-13 and 2014 (the 2014 card is linked to a 2010 Francisco Rodriguez card, but there are 2 Francisco Rodriguez’s and it’s the wrong one.)
Springer, Russ: 2007-08 and 2009
Suppan, Jeff: 2007-08 and 2009-12
Tavarez, Julian: 2007-08 and 2009
Tomko, Brett: 2007-08 and 2009
Vazquez, Javier: 2007-08 and 2009-11
Villone, Ron: 2007-08 and 2009
Wakefield, Tim: 2007-08 and 2009-11
Washburn, Jarrod: 2007-08 and 2009
Weathers, David: 2007-08 and 2009
Wells, Kip: 2007-08 and 2009
Wheeler, Dan: 2007-08 and 2009-11
Wolf, Randy: 2007-08 and 2009-12
Wright, Jamey: 2007-08, 14 and 2009-13
Young, Chris: 2007-08 and 2009-14

BATTERS:
Alonso, Yonder: 2011, 2014 and 2012-13
Carp, Mike: 2009, 2014 and 2011-13
Carter, Chris: 2010-13 and 2014 (the 2014 card is linked to a 2010 Chris Carter card, but there are 2 Chris Carters and it’s the wrong one.)
Gonzalez, Edgar: 2008 and 2009
Liddi, Alex: 2011 and 2012
Montero, Jesus: 2011 and 2012-13
Oeltjen, Trent: 2009 and 2011
Parmelee, Chris: 2011 and 2012-14
Perez, Salvador: 2011 and 2012-14
Pill, Brett: 2011 and 2012-13
Rosario, Wilin: 2011 and 2012-14
Tolleson, Steve: 2010 and 2012, 2014
Young, Chris: 2007-08 and 2009-14

(I really need to get a life.)
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Re: CUT THROAT LEAGUE...

PostWed Nov 11, 2015 9:00 pm

WAITING ON 2 MANAGERS:


1. visick
2. gbrookes
3. zim13
4. Frank M
5. FALCON29
6. Dr. Publix
7. Keyzick
8. geekor
9. ScumbyJr
10. Kev
11. CATom
12. AZHawg
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Re: CUT THROAT LEAGUE... CATom & gbrookes PLEASE load!!!

PostWed Nov 11, 2015 10:50 pm

I'll load tomorrow
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Re: CUT THROAT LEAGUE... CATom & gbrookes PLEASE load!!!

PostThu Nov 12, 2015 11:50 am

OK sorry I tried to go make up my team, but please tell me how I find the special player card set?

(I know this shows how behind I am on this, sorry)

:oops:
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Re: CUT THROAT LEAGUE... CATom & gbrookes PLEASE load!!!

PostThu Nov 12, 2015 11:53 am

go to atg8 - on the drop down list find 2007-2014 unleashed (about 3/4th of the way down the list & mark it.....Tom
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Re: CUT THROAT LEAGUE... CATom & gbrookes PLEASE load!!!

PostThu Nov 12, 2015 1:57 pm

CATom wrote:go to atg8 - on the drop down list find 2007-2014 unleashed (about 3/4th of the way down the list & mark it.....Tom


Yes it is under the ATG8 subsets
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