2015 Defense Ratings Previews - Full ratings in OP

Hveed, ESPN fielding stats has Eaton better than the 4 I mentioned. The Range Factor for Eaton is 2.47, Pollock is 2.43, Burns is 2.38, Ellsbury is 2.25 and McCutchen is 2.02. On another note SOM has Kris Bryant as a 4e5 which is better than Eaton at 4e6. I know its marginal at best but my point being they rate Bryant better. Eaton has been royally screwed as I said.

http://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?p ... &players=0

As I said back when you first mentioned it, he got screwed but not royally.

He should probably be a 3(+3)

3 seems appropriate. The 4 probably has to do with the White Sox overall poor run prevention.

They need a separate category for Kiermaier!

Frank - you need to stop using ESPN ranger factor as it's outdated and SOM does not use that in determining their range ratings. The D-war ESPN puts up is even a better measure, though it's very rough, but really if you want to use the same data as SOM you need to look at Fangraphs advanced, DRS, and Fielding Bible.

Hveed - what you wrote about Eaton being penalized by the team runs allowed is 100% on target. SOM's primary concern is that the replays come out perfect, or nearly so. If they tested Eaton as a 3 but the team's runs allowed did not get to where it was this year (extrememly bad) then they could very easily move him to a 4 to get the replay numbers right. And the Fangraphs numbers were off the charts bad for a guy with his rep. The Inside Edge numbers spell this out - he only made 33% of "Likely" plays (where an avg CF would make 60-90% of those) and he made just 20% of "Even" plays, where an avg CF would make 40-60% of those plays. If an average CF is a 3 range, then clearly he deserved a 4 based on those #s.

Full ratings are out:

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posted in opening post as well

1's at SS:
FRANCISCO LINDOR
JOSE IGLESIAS
ALCIDES ESCOBAR
DIDI GREGORIUS
ANDRELTON SIMMONS
ZACK COZART
ADEINY HECHAVARRIA
BRANDON CRAWFORD

1's at 2B:
IAN KINSLER
RYAN GOINS
BRANDON PHILLIPS
DJ LeMAHIEU
DEE GORDON
JOE PANIK
DANNY ESPINOSA

1's at CF:
ADAM JONES
JACKIE BRADLEY JR
JAKE MARISNICK
LORENZO CAIN
JARROD DYSON
MIKE TROUT
KEVIN KIERMAIER
KEVIN PILLAR
A.J. POLLOCK
BILLY HAMILTON
ANDREW McCUTCHEN

D Span dropping from a 1 to a 3? Can't say I saw that coming, I think that is a much bigger snub than Eaton.

Kipnis really should have been a 2 IMHO.

Taylor Featherston a 2 at 2b? I saw him play multiple times... no fucking way, a 3 at best. I guess when they compare him to Giavotella though, anyone looks competent.

Asdrubal Cabrera getting a 2 at SS? He was well regarded as not a plus defender by many pundits (I haven't check his metrics though).

That is weird for Asdrubal, but just like Eaton seems to be hurt by his teams run prevention, seems like he is getting a positive bump from the Rays team D.

Strange case for Cespedes too, 1 In LF on his DET card, but a 2 in left for his time in NY (3 in center).

Thanks to Geekor and anyone else who contributed this early information. Cheers!

I agree with Geekor that Jason Kipnis should be a 2... Of course I am an Indians fan...

Denard Span was oft injured, maybe that's why he got dropped to a 3...???

Ben Zobrist is no longer a 1 or a 2 anywhere. And Michael Brantley went from being a 1 in LF and a 2 in CF to being a 2 and a 3. Doh!

So Dee Gordon is going to have like an 8.00 million dollar card,....right? Who wants to guess some salaries now that we know fielding ranges? Come on experts!?

A quick one: a guy in the Additional player group (JP Arencibia) would be in the Unleashed set or not ?

24 GP / 71 AB