Ratings Guide Curse

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l.strether

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Re: Ratings Guide Curse

PostMon Sep 01, 2014 3:01 pm

Salty wrote:You say you dont fight with everyone-
Yet everyone else says you do:

Who is correct?

You or EVERYONE else?


PS- we call this narcissism amongst other things.

And you are so creepy that you would go back and research everything Ive written for 2 years- man creeepy stalker.


So, you can't show one single post where I initiated a fight. Again...what a shock. QED, Salty...you've lost this one.

And not agreeing with hostile idiots isn't "narcissism," little guy, its sanity. I would not be surprised at all if that word eludes you.

Finally, I have never stalked anyone, and I certainly would never start with you. You are the one who came on this thread only to talk about me. That is stalking, and you need to stop. And I certainly didn't research your posts. I do have some friends who used to play ATG, and they warned me about the "trio" of you, Neve, and Druid. Lucky for me, he led me to some of your more charming posts...and I've seen more

Anyway, Marky. I hope you appreciated the Beavis and Butthead. Maybe someday, you can be as smart as one of them... ;)
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Re: Ratings Guide Curse

PostMon Sep 01, 2014 3:08 pm

put it up as a poll and see who loses. I have little doubt of the outcome of such a poll
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Re: Ratings Guide Curse

PostMon Sep 01, 2014 3:12 pm

STEVE F wrote:put it up as a poll and see who loses. I have little doubt of the outcome of such a poll


I guess being a grown man and backing up your argument was beyond you Steve. Very disappointing.

Put up any poll you like. Apparently, you care about popularity; I don't. Also, like Salty and Badjam, you are starting to get fixated on me. As I've said before, I get the appeal. However, I hope you have better things to think about in your life.

I, myself, am moving on. I have things to write and a house to fix.
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Re: Ratings Guide Curse

PostMon Sep 01, 2014 3:41 pm

l.strether wrote:
Salty wrote:You say you dont fight with everyone-
Yet everyone else says you do:

Who is correct?

You or EVERYONE else?


PS- we call this narcissism amongst other things.


And not agreeing with hostile idiots isn't "narcissism," little guy, its sanity. I would not be surprised at all if that word eludes you.



I just want to be clear on this:

Everyone else is a 'hostile idiot' but you are the 'sane' one?
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Re: Ratings Guide Curse

PostMon Sep 01, 2014 8:06 pm

l.strecher quote " If I accurately and correctly read that ratings guides effectively assist managers in their player evaluations, then it was not hearsay. It was my receiving accurate truth."

You have not proven your point. Just simply telling me about what you read is not proof. Some may be helped, some may be misled. A select few that gain from these and told you so does not account for everyone. For you to just assume that these guides must help people because that is their intended goal, can not automatically be accepted fact, especially from someone that says he has not personally evaluated any guides. Your point remains invalid because of your lack of first hand knowledge on the subject and your entire viewpoints are based on your perception of the guides.

The original poster is just one that supports my position that success from using these guides is not automatically accepted.

Also, if a manager were to spend the time to pour through different help guides to find the exact information that he needs, actually give him credit for the extra work put in to helping his team? Some credit must be given to managers that can find and evaluate their own weaknesses and address them through research and study.

If you are going to sit on your high horse and discredit other managers attempts at improving their game by calling them less complete managers, you need to do better than shooting from the hip with some flimsey second hand knowledge.
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Re: Ratings Guide Curse

PostMon Sep 01, 2014 8:25 pm

There is an exclamation point inside of a triangle that points down in the top of every post. Please report these posts by using that mechanism so SOM can review the posts that are offensive. If enough people report these posts, actions will be taken. With any luck the removal of the offender from the board.
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l.strether

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Re: Ratings Guide Curse

PostMon Sep 01, 2014 8:34 pm

l.strether quote " If I accurately and correctly read that ratings guides effectively assist managers in their player evaluations, then it was not hearsay. It was my receiving accurate truth."
You have not proven your point. Just simply telling me about what you read is not proof.

You misread my sentence terribly, BJ. It was a conditional phrase, not an absolute assertion. If I did in fact correctly read that ratings guides effectively assist managers in their player evaluations, then I did receive accurate truth, and my statements on players using ratings guides are correct. There is no disputing that. If you can prove that the ratings guides are faulty, I will retract my statement. You haven't done so yet, so I will not.
Your point remains invalid because of your lack of first hand knowledge on the subject and your entire viewpoints are based on your perception of the guides.

As I said before this is ridiculous. Since you didn't address the argument against this earlier, I will post it again:
Accurate information gleaned from written texts or spoken insight is not hearsay. It is accurate information gleaned from written texts or spoken insight. Everyday, baseball fans draw useful information from scouting reports, history books, and newspapers. Almost none of us see that information for itself.

As an ATG player and fan of old baseball, you should definitely know this. You and the others discuss and give opinions on players you have no first hand knowledge of. You know about them from what you read and what you have heard. If what you erroneously said about first hand knowledge, BJ, were true, you, your friends and all other baseball fans could never successfully do this. Luckily for you, what you said is inaccurate and false.
Also, if a manager were to spend the time to pour through different help guides to find the exact information that he needs, actually give him credit for the extra work put in to helping his team? Some credit must be given to managers that can find and evaluate their own weaknesses and address them through research and study.

The manager in your hypothetical may be doing work in poring through other people's ratings guides. However, they are still not evaluating players for themselves, and they are not the complete managers that do so.

Again, you shouldn't be so defensive about using ratings guides if you or your friends use them. As I said before, there are still excellent partial managers whose other strat skills should be respected. The utmost respect, however, should be reserved for complete managers who evaluate players on their own.
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Re: Ratings Guide Curse

PostMon Sep 01, 2014 8:35 pm

ROBERTLATORRE wrote:There is an exclamation point inside of a triangle that points down in the top of every post. Please report these posts by using that mechanism so SOM can review the posts that are offensive. If enough people report these posts, actions will be taken. With any luck the removal of the offender from the board.


Thank you for your advice, Rob. Considering how many people have levied personal attacks on me, this thread, I might just do that.

If you think any of my posts made personal attacks, please point them out to me. I would greatly appreciate it.
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Re: Ratings Guide Curse

PostMon Sep 01, 2014 8:39 pm

l.strether wrote:
ROBERTLATORRE wrote:There is an exclamation point inside of a triangle that points down in the top of every post. Please report these posts by using that mechanism so SOM can review the posts that are offensive. If enough people report these posts, actions will be taken. With any luck the removal of the offender from the board.


Thank you for your advice, Rob. Considering how many people have levied personal attacks on me, this thread, I might just do that.

If you think any of my posts made personal attacks, please point them out to me. I would greatly appreciate it.


That would be terrific, you would save all of us a lot of time.
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Re: Ratings Guide Curse

PostMon Sep 01, 2014 8:44 pm

I said I might report the people who made personal attacks on me. You need to read better now, Rob.

And you still haven't shown any of my posts that made abusive personal attacks. I'm not surprised; I know you can't do so.
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