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Thoughts on new 2012 cards

PostPosted: Thu Feb 28, 2013 8:16 pm
by Valen
Trout, 12.55 mil, expensive. And mcCutchen not far behind.

Cano an interesting 8R. Might be interesting to get that card in ATG and use in a platoon.

Injury prone Votto pricey but card might still be worth it.

Hamilton, Heyward, and Stanton clumped together in price. If that CF range rating is accurate that $125 mil Angels gave him might be high. Part of me was surprised he was not at least a 2. I am certain the April/May Hamilton deserved a 1 rating. But the final rating may be deserved given the disinterested effort he put out last 2 months of season.

How about a Chavez/Rosario platoon at third? Or does that defense scare everyone away? How about a Frandsen/Chavez?

Gutierrez has an interesting 8L card and is priced right to be useful in a platoon.

Medlen card might inspire more teams to go with 5 man rotations with this set. That or super reliever.
Add in Beachy, Harvey, and Fister and you have 80% of that 5 man rotation and 4 of the top 15 priced pitchers.

It seems to me that drop from Kershaw and his 9.4 salary to the midlevel guys in the 5 mil neighborhood is pretty steep.

6th most expensive rp only Uehara. And Rangers let him walk this winter.

And there Darren Oliver is middle of first page for RP only guys. Just how old will this guy need to get before he is no longer an effective reliever?

That Avilan card is interesting. Do the Braves have a good bullpen or what? Interesting how some organizations just seem to turn out arms as if they had a manufacturing plant for them.

Re: Thoughts on new 2012 cards

PostPosted: Thu Feb 28, 2013 8:21 pm
by ShakeyBoomer
Once again, it seems to me that the 20XX pricing is completely out of whack when you have extreme L cards being as expensive as they are.

McCutchen is a perfect example of this as he has very little XB power vs RH pitching, and to me, that makes the card virtually unusable at that price.

Not to mention that Cano and his 8R is completely unusable at that price as well as he is completely inept vs LH pitching.

Re: Thoughts on new 2012 cards

PostPosted: Thu Feb 28, 2013 8:31 pm
by visick
The pricing is very similair to the 2001 set.

Back then pitching was so overpriced

Re: Thoughts on new 2012 cards

PostPosted: Thu Feb 28, 2013 8:36 pm
by visick
I don't see how anybody is going to be able to afford these guys in a $80 million league...

Re: Thoughts on new 2012 cards

PostPosted: Thu Feb 28, 2013 8:38 pm
by geekor
McCutchen has 48.2 TB, 4.4 Hr and full 8 BPHR. Not exactly having no XBH vs RHP. Definetly not as good as Trout and should be priced further behind him, but no slouch.

Moss looks like a great bargain btw

Yea, there are soooo many cards that kill LHP this set, I'm glad I typically only target RHP :P

LH Hitters that hit both sides well are rare in this set. I've already learned that the hard way when missing out on all the LH you put on a draft card, there is no one left to replace them with. May be going Fenway a LOT this season.

Re: Thoughts on new 2012 cards

PostPosted: Thu Feb 28, 2013 8:41 pm
by visick
For $10.07, you get Headley and his whopping 20.5 hit chances vs. LH's.
And 24 vs. RH's.

He'll hit .250-.265. On a + note, he is maxed out BPHR's both ways.


And with Cano, how can he not be maxed out vs RH's?

Re: Thoughts on new 2012 cards

PostPosted: Thu Feb 28, 2013 8:42 pm
by visick
The Travis Snider card brings back memories of Rick Ankiel's 5L card from 2007.

But Ankiel could also hit RH's with that card...

Re: Thoughts on new 2012 cards

PostPosted: Thu Feb 28, 2013 8:46 pm
by geekor
Seriously, the more I look at it the more whack it becomes.

I think B Moss will be the #1 on my draft card every time from here on out.. Position flexibility, The guy has the 2ND MOST TB vs RHP, the MOSt HR vs RH pitching, and though he isn't a stud vs LHP, he's still good enough to bat 6th or 7th. considering the typical 70/30 RH/LH split, how the hell is he prices LESS than Posey? M Cabrera is prices more, but hits LHP worse, is a RHH (where LH are at a premium this season). the only spots Miggy is better is less of an injury risk.

Re: Thoughts on new 2012 cards

PostPosted: Thu Feb 28, 2013 8:48 pm
by visick
Moss should perform REAL well...

Re: Thoughts on new 2012 cards

PostPosted: Thu Feb 28, 2013 9:40 pm
by Superfly41
on the flip side Charlie Morton from a .50 9R to a .50 4L