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Is this team really this bad?

PostPosted: Thu Jul 24, 2014 3:44 pm
by dalekeener
I have started the season 0-9, yes that's right a big goose egg full of bird excrement....0-9...that is no wins and yes nine consecutive losses ....I know, or at least think I know we are not going 0-162....but is this team that bad....

http://onlinegames.strat-o-matic.com/team/1381891

Dale

Re: Is this team really this bad?

PostPosted: Thu Jul 24, 2014 6:53 pm
by coyote303
I'm not familiar with this set (I play mystery leagues), so I have no opinion about your team. However, if you want to ensure you have a bad season, start dropping players.

Obviously, you entire team is underperforming right now. However, no player's card is any worse than the day you drafted him. So, have a little faith that things might get better!

I have a mystery card team that is one game away from going to the finals. However, the team started poorly (granted, not 0-9), and I wasn't optimistic. And even though it often makes sense to drop players in the mystery game, I didn't panic and my team turned it around. Maybe yours will too!

Re: Is this team really this bad?

PostPosted: Thu Jul 24, 2014 7:20 pm
by toronto50
u have a stadium that favors lefty power..but u dont have a lot of lefty power hitters, or lefty sp that stops lefty power.

davis alvarez and mccann is not enough lefty power...adams/calhoun and others to fill your lineup..bautista is not a good card in 80 million

Re: Is this team really this bad?

PostPosted: Thu Jul 24, 2014 9:28 pm
by ScumbyJr
dalekeener wrote:I have started the season 0-9, yes that's right a big goose egg full of bird excrement....0-9...that is no wins and yes nine consecutive losses ....I know, or at least think I know we are not going 0-162....but is this team that bad....

http://onlinegames.strat-o-matic.com/team/1381891

Dale


In general my opinion is your use of payroll is inefficient. too much spent on bullpen and bench. specifically you do not need or want 11 pitchers. You have stud starters, plus Marmol is a disaster, I would waive him. An open spot is better than having a lousy cheap pitcher.

Re: Is this team really this bad?

PostPosted: Fri Jul 25, 2014 1:14 pm
by apolivka
A couple of points. You've only played one series at home. That makes a huge difference. You have been super unlucky with Davis, Alverez, and Utley and McCann, who should be solid offensive performers at your park.

One big thing, though, is you have 16(!!!) points of closer ratings in you bullpen. That is a huge waste of money as you pay a premium for each point there, and only use about 2-4 closer points per game. (You typically use zero in games you lose) I usually keep only 6-7 closer points on my teams. Remember a R1 is a _better_ pitcher than an R1/C1 for the same price under every circumstance, unless they are in the act of closing a game**. Those guys towards the back of the pen should never close a game so you are just wasting money there. If dropping is 5%, it might actually be cost effective to switch those guys out if you can find good park fits on the free agent list. If it's 20%, then it probably isn't a good idea.

You've lost three one run games, and won zero. That will even out too.

Your three lefty starters are 5L/6L/6L. Were I in your division, I could probably take advantage of that. If I had three lefties in my rotation, I'd want to mix that up with someone more "even" and probably one "reverse lefty".

Re: Is this team really this bad?

PostPosted: Fri Jul 25, 2014 2:16 pm
by geekor
apolivka wrote:One big thing, though, is you have 16(!!!) points of closer ratings in you bullpen. That is a huge waste of money as you pay a premium for each point there, and only use about 2-4 closer points per game. (You typically use zero in games you lose) I usually keep only 6-7 closer points on my teams. Remember a R1 is a _better_ pitcher than an R1/C1 for the same price under every circumstance, unless they are in the act of closing a game**. Those guys towards the back of the pen should never close a game so you are just wasting money there. If dropping is 5%, it might actually be cost effective to switch those guys out if you can find good park fits on the free agent list. If it's 20%, then it probably isn't a good idea.


Please do not give out completely false information.

I was on the beta test team back at TSN from the 03 game to ATG3 release (when I left the game for a while I declined invitation back).

The Closer rating does add some salary, but a very minute amount. Definitely not 5%. Bbrool is one of the masters at the salary, he was the one setting them, then adjusting, for TSN back in the days. If you don't believe me, send him a PM.

but don't give out information about how the salary is calculated when you really have no idea.

Re: Is this team really this bad?

PostPosted: Fri Jul 25, 2014 6:22 pm
by apolivka
geekor wrote:
The Closer rating does add some salary, but a very minute amount. Definitely not 5%. Bbrool is one of the masters at the salary, he was the one setting them, then adjusting, for TSN back in the days. If you don't believe me, send him a PM.

but don't give out information about how the salary is calculated when you really have no idea.


I appreciate where you are coming from, but I don't think it's that insignificant. 5% is probably iffy, but close, especially for low priced pitchers.

However, If you know, tell us what the "minute amount" is. If not, you are disregarding your very own statement.

When you have 11+ unnecessary closer points on a team, those "minute amounts" add up. For the team in question, it's every single pitcher in his pen. For low priced pitchers, I would never do it. Game of inches. You are paying for something you will never use.

Re: Is this team really this bad?

PostPosted: Sat Jul 26, 2014 2:04 am
by geekor
apolivka wrote:
geekor wrote:
The Closer rating does add some salary, but a very minute amount. Definitely not 5%. Bbrool is one of the masters at the salary, he was the one setting them, then adjusting, for TSN back in the days. If you don't believe me, send him a PM.

but don't give out information about how the salary is calculated when you really have no idea.


I appreciate where you are coming from, but I don't think it's that insignificant. 5% is probably iffy, but close, especially for low priced pitchers.

However, If you know, tell us what the "minute amount" is. If not, you are disregarding your very own statement.

When you have 11+ unnecessary closer points on a team, those "minute amounts" add up. For the team in question, it's every single pitcher in his pen. For low priced pitchers, I would never do it. Game of inches. You are paying for something you will never use.


I 100% guarantee it's less than 5% for a C6 rating, so it will never be worth the in-season cap hit.

Re: Is this team really this bad?

PostPosted: Fri Aug 08, 2014 7:35 pm
by ArrylT
Considering your team is now 17-37 I think it is. :cry:

I would suggest at this point you have nothing to lose by trying new players or ideas. Regardless best of luck!