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fielding chart equilivents

PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2015 12:26 pm
by bbfan
I've seen it posted before: s hows . for example: if you have a 2e20 SS what is an equal 3e? number

JT

Re: fielding chart equilivents

PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2015 12:36 pm
by geekor
I know what you're talking about, but can't fine it either.

Just use Dean's (charts towards the bottom) and get more accurate count

http://www.mfooz.com/bblog/wp-content/u ... efense.pdf

Re: fielding chart equilivents

PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2015 2:50 pm
by coyote303
I think these are the droids you're looking for...

http://www.baseballthinkfactory.org/btf ... atfldg.htm

UPDATE: After reading the follow-up posts, I guess I should change my opening remark to:

These aren't the droids you're looking for...

Re: fielding chart equilivents

PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2015 5:15 pm
by MARCPELLETIER
Take Dean's. Baseball factory chart is loaded of mistakes and doesn't consider double-plays, which are so important. Only mistake from Dean's is ss e4 and ss e5 are set as equal when they should not.

Also, Dean's chart doesn't consider arm rating for outfielders. A rule of thumb I suggest:

for LF: add arm rating*0.25
for RF: add arm rating*0.4
for CF: add arm rating*0.75

(thus, when arm rating is negative, you substract)

Re: fielding chart equilivents

PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2015 5:37 pm
by l.strether
MARCPELLETIER wrote:(thus, when arm rating is negative, you substract)

Gee, Mark, thanks... ;)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emvySA1-3t8

Re: fielding chart equilivents

PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2015 5:55 pm
by ROBERTLATORRE
MARCPELLETIER wrote:Take Dean's. Baseball factory chart is loaded of mistakes and doesn't consider double-plays, which are so important. Only mistake from Dean's is ss e4 and ss e5 are set as equal when they should not.

Also, Dean's chart doesn't consider arm rating for outfielders. A rule of thumb I suggest:

for LF: add arm rating*0.25
for RF: add arm rating*0.4
for CF: add arm rating*0.75

(thus, when arm rating is negative, you substract)


Arm modifiers are a nice add on, borrowing that Marc!

Re: fielding chart equilivents

PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2015 10:10 pm
by bbfan
geekor wrote:I know what you're talking about, but can't fine it either.

Just use Dean's (charts towards the bottom) and get more accurate count

http://www.mfooz.com/bblog/wp-content/u ... efense.pdf


Exactlly what I was look for thanks geeker

JT

Re: fielding chart equilivents

PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2015 11:13 pm
by MARCPELLETIER
l.strether wrote:
MARCPELLETIER wrote:(thus, when arm rating is negative, you substract)

Gee, Mark, thanks... ;)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emvySA1-3t8


Good çatch, dude.

BTW, it's Marc with a C as in baCon

Re: fielding chart equilivents

PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2015 11:21 pm
by l.strether
Thanks, man...and "C" it is... ;)

Re: fielding chart equilivents

PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2015 5:51 am
by milleram
Looking at the chart below--looks like its about 16 errors with super advanced chart at 2B--though better range fielders will turn a few more DP.

http://www.baseballthinkfactory.org/btf ... dg.htm#top

A 3e10 2B allows 27.7 OPS card chances per game, a 2e26 allows 27.8---if you have the strategy guide, add the OB and Total bases of a player (which gives OPS in card chances), subtract the fielding OPS allowed, to compare players.

The think factory ratings are good for the infield--but the OF ratings are off in my opinion, they are correct for 1 outfielders with any error rating, and across the top for 2 through 5 with no errors, but are worse than they should be for the 2 trough 5 guys with errors.