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The Cardinals: Ideal Franchise or Corporate Criminals?

PostPosted: Fri Jul 03, 2015 1:45 am
by l.strether
As most know, the FBI is completing its investigation into the Cardinals apparent hacking into the Astros' database and stealing personnel files. Just who was responsible for this heinous action became clearer yesterday, as the Cardinals fired Scouting Director Chris Correa for his apparent involvement in the matter. Considering the Cardinals have always been Baseball's model franchise--great success on the field, excellent player development; polite, knowledgeable fans; and legendary players like Musial and Gibson--the questions many are asking is "Why did it go wrong?"

The answer begins with Jeff Luhnow and his experience with the Cards. Like modern analytic executives like Epstein, Friedman, Preller, Daniels, and Depodesta; Luhnow is brilliant, highly-educated, and statisticaly/analytically oriented. With a B.A/B.S. in Economics and Engineering from UPenn and an MBA from Northwestern, as well as statistical approaches he learned there, Luhnow hardly clicked with the traditional scouting-oriented GM, Walt Jocketty. However, as VP of scouting from 2005-2011, Luhnow greatly contributed to STL's success overseeing the drafting of Carlos Martinez, Matt Carpenter, Matt Adams, Trevor Rosenthal, Shelby Miller, Jamie Garcia, Joe Kelly, and others. So, despite his clashes with Jocketty and his assistant (now GM) John Mozeliak, Luhnow earned the great admiration of owner Bill Dewitt

He also earned it from the Astros new owner Jim Crane, who wanted an advanced analytical thinker to replace old-schooler Ed Wade and was thrilled to land Luhnow. He was so thrilled, the Astros bragged about Luhnow's responsibility for the Cards' success during the 2013 series. Apparently, Mozeliak and crew were fumed...and some members of that crew gathered in a Jupiter, Fla house, hacked into the Astros database, and stole information hoping to embarrass Luhnow. Yes, these grown men (not children) apparently broke Federal law by committing corporate espionage, committed HIPAA violations by stealing medical records...just to embarrass an ex-employer they didn't like.

Which leaves us with the questions of how much has this tarnished the Cardinals reputation as ideal franchise, and what will happen to them. Firstly, even if it never goes higher than Correa, the Cardinals will never be the ideal franchise again. Ideal franchises don't infiltrate other franchises to damage their employees. And if Mozeliak was involved, his entire tenure will be tainted as one run by a criminal, who--along with other employees--could easily see jail time. As to their penalties, the Cardinal organization could be facing Federal ones that could mark them for decades. And Manfred's penalties will likely be equally severe, costing the Cards millions of dollars and numerous high draft picks.

Along with the recent revelations of Pete Rose's likely betting as a player, the shameful Cards debacle helps remind us Baseball franchises aren't nearly as innocent as our love for them. Flawed corporations run by and starring some men-children without ethics, who care nothing for the values of their product, baseball franchises are worthy of our patronage...but rarely worthy of our admiration.

Re: The Cardinals: Ideal Franchise or Corporate Criminals?

PostPosted: Fri Jul 03, 2015 10:21 am
by Risden
Ideal Franchise.

Re: The Cardinals: Ideal Franchise or Corporate Criminals?

PostPosted: Fri Jul 03, 2015 11:50 am
by teamnasty
Yes, ideal franchise. The actions of a small coterie of vengeful FO guys below the team prez and GM don't eliminate decades of successful history. Mind you those actions were legitimately corrupt and illegal, but the baby doesn't get thrown out with the bathwater.

Re: The Cardinals: Ideal Franchise or Corporate Criminals?

PostPosted: Fri Jul 03, 2015 11:54 am
by l.strether
Risden wrote:Ideal Franchise.

What would be your view of the hacking if the FBI and/or MLB determines the hacking to be true? What would be your opinion of the Mozeliak years if he was involved in any way?

Re: The Cardinals: Ideal Franchise or Corporate Criminals?

PostPosted: Fri Jul 03, 2015 1:24 pm
by Ninersphan
l.strether wrote:
Risden wrote:Ideal Franchise.

What would be your view of the hacking if the FBI and/or MLB determines the hacking to be true? What would be your opinion of the Mozeliak years if he was involved in any way?

Nice piece. To answer your question they were one now they are the other. Not sure how anyone else could see it any other way really.

That said, you may want to reread what you posted you made a couple of errors you'll need to fix, Matt Adams listed twice in the players list and stating the Cards officials gathered in Florida and hacked their own data base.

Re: The Cardinals: Ideal Franchise or Corporate Criminals?

PostPosted: Fri Jul 03, 2015 1:31 pm
by l.strether
Thanks, and thanks for the keen editing; I will fix those errors. I still hubristically tell myself I write just as cleanly after 10 PM. Also I'm not sure I understand "they we're one now they are the other." Could you clarify?

Re: The Cardinals: Ideal Franchise or Corporate Criminals?

PostPosted: Fri Jul 03, 2015 2:36 pm
by Ninersphan
l.strether wrote:Thanks, and thanks for the keen editing; I will fix those errors. I still hubristically tell myself I write just as cleanly after 10 PM. Also I'm not sure I understand "they we're one now they are the other." Could you clarify?


Your topic title asked whether the Cards are the Ideal Franchise or Corporate Criminals.

They were the ideal franchise, now they are corporate criminals, they were one, now they are the other.

Re: The Cardinals: Ideal Franchise or Corporate Criminals?

PostPosted: Fri Jul 03, 2015 2:42 pm
by l.strether
Got it. Very well phrased.

Re: The Cardinals: Ideal Franchise or Corporate Criminals?

PostPosted: Fri Jul 03, 2015 7:20 pm
by l.strether
Note: The investigation has taken another step forward today as federal investigators have officially recommended charges against one Cardinal employee, reportedly recently fired ex-Scouting Director Chris Correa. The question still lingers on if anyone higher up was involved. I would bet strongly against owner Bill DeWitt Jr. being involved. Luhnow was his golden boy, whom he didn't want to lose. Not only did he greatly admire and appreciate Luhnow's work, as a graduate of Yale and Harvard Business School, he related more to Luhnow than he did to Jocketty and Mozeliak.

Mozeliak obviously deserves the benefit of the doubt. But until he is cleared, questions will linger whether he was directly involved or indirectly fostered an anti-Luhnow sentiment among his underlings. So, it will be to the benefit of all involved when the investigation is thoroughly completed.