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Marlins Park Strategy

PostPosted: Sat Oct 01, 2016 3:45 am
by freeman
I cannot seen to come up with good teams in low power, even-sided, low to average or baserunnners stadiums. For example, Marlins Park, Safeco, and Angel Stadium. AT&T and Petco I have done well with because I can load up on lefties, either for baserunner or power purposes. I have also done ok with Kaufman and even better with National but those parks have some power and a lot of baserunnners.

My problem is the real pitching stadium with either below-average power and below average baserunnners (Safeco, Angel Stadium) or slightly above average baserunnners and no power (Marlins Park).

And it's frustrating because it doesn't take much thought to try and gain an advantage on loading up lefties in AT&T and Petco or power hitters in Miller; I can always field decent teams in those stadiums because I will get some value from tilting the team; whether I will have a decent team or a championship contender depends on the rest of the decisions I make but I start with a leg up.

But there is no leg up with Marlin's Park. I have tended to try to gain value by trying to win hits or have good speed in the offensive side and go with pitching guys whose homeruns are diminished in Marlins. It hasn't worked. Winning in Marlins is kind of a test of whether you can put together a team in the non-obvious ways to win in Strat and it's annoying that I haven't figured it out. Going extremely pitching heavy is perhaps another way and I tried pitching-heavy teams but have really failed to get a top-end staff and that really has not worked either for me yet but I will try that again as well.

So a new theory. The theory is that's difficult to score runs because of the extreme lack of power and even the decent amount of baserunnners the park gives you is not enough to generate a lot of runs from hits/on-base. My thought was to get guys with around 15 2b/3b/hr on their offensive card. On the pitching side I like it close to 5 on each side. Defensively, I got good arms at catcher and the outfield to hinder runner advancement. I also tried to get a somewhat fast team.

Here's the team. http://365.strat-o-matic.com/index.php/team/1438750

I'll see how it goes.

Re: Marlins Park Strategy

PostPosted: Tue Oct 04, 2016 5:56 am
by ROBERTVOZZA
Here is a Marlins Park team that won 98 regular season games and went 8-2 in the postseason to win the Championship. Tonite.

http://365.strat-o-matic.com/team/1434746

Re: Marlins Park Strategy

PostPosted: Tue Oct 04, 2016 5:58 am
by ROBERTVOZZA
Hopefully, it may help a bit. :) ;)

Re: Marlins Park Strategy

PostPosted: Tue Oct 04, 2016 6:01 am
by ROBERTVOZZA
BTW, he accomplished this feat against very stiff veteran competition. :shock: ;)

Re: Marlins Park Strategy

PostPosted: Tue Oct 04, 2016 1:33 pm
by freeman
Thanks. Interesting. High batting average, pretty good on-base, high speed team. Looks like he went very aggressive on base stealing. Wonder if he did the same on base running. Defense wasn't particularly great but his pitching allowed only 586 runs. Not necessarily schematically much different from what I was doing but executed better.

Re: Marlins Park Strategy

PostPosted: Wed Oct 05, 2016 11:56 am
by ROBERTVOZZA
Some of it has to do with the players and Parks in your Division. But Visick's 98 win team completely dominated the whole league. I don't think he had a losing record against anyone. Pretty impressive if you saw who else played in the league.

Re: Marlins Park Strategy

PostPosted: Wed Oct 05, 2016 12:30 pm
by STEVE F

Re: Marlins Park Strategy

PostPosted: Wed Oct 05, 2016 1:06 pm
by ROBERTVOZZA
Wow! 4 21+ game winning SP's. 200+ Run Differential. Quite a team! I I think the way to go is great Starting Pitching. That's what Visick had too. And just enough hitting, OBP, speed and defense to outscore the opposition. Nice team, Steve. Did they not win the Championship?

Re: Marlins Park Strategy

PostPosted: Wed Oct 05, 2016 1:09 pm
by STEVE F
Lost the finals. It happens

Re: Marlins Park Strategy

PostPosted: Wed Oct 05, 2016 3:10 pm
by freeman
Quite a pitching staff. Thanks for the examples, guys.