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What in Sam Hill...?

PostPosted: Sat Mar 25, 2017 12:56 am
by Radagast Brown
Alcides Escobar played in all 162 games, and yet he has an injury on his card. Was this just a mistake? He did not have over 680 plate appearances, so maybe this was an oversight? Or did something change?

Just out of curiosity how many players played in all their teams regular season games? I know Jose Abreau might have come close.

Re: What in Sam Hill...?

PostPosted: Sat Mar 25, 2017 1:21 am
by Mr Baseball World
Looks like an error.

The other two players who played 162 games were Schoop and Springer. They have no injury and Schoop had fewer PA's than Escobar.

Re: What in Sam Hill...?

PostPosted: Sat Mar 25, 2017 4:06 pm
by Hittmens
I have him and he started the league by going down for 3 games.

Re: What in Sam Hill...?

PostPosted: Sat Mar 25, 2017 8:28 pm
by DGF102052
Did anyone question SOM support ?

Re: What in Sam Hill...?

PostPosted: Sun Mar 26, 2017 2:04 am
by milleram
I sent a note to support and got no reply--next day after I sent the note he went down for 3 on my team. ( :shock: )

They may be able to correct it, but probably not for seasons already underway. I think the printed cards have the error also, so strat just may let it ride.

Another issue is Escobar's price may be effected, at least slightly. They may have priced him as a 3 game injury max, where a 0 injury should have cost a little more. Not sure at this low a price if it would be significant, but maybe someone with more insight to the pricing of players may know.

Re: What in Sam Hill...?

PostPosted: Sun Mar 26, 2017 9:18 pm
by Radagast Brown
Well dadgum. That's not quite right, is it?

Re: What in Sam Hill...?

PostPosted: Wed Mar 29, 2017 11:52 pm
by ClowntimeIsOver
milleram wrote:... Escobar's price may be effected, at least slightly. They may have priced him as a 3 game injury max, where a 0 injury should have cost a little more. Not sure at this low a price if it would be significant, but maybe someone with more insight to the pricing of players may know.


I've estimated that for 15-game injury guys, each worse rating -- relative to a 1-injury rating -- is worth one-fourteenth ("simple" rate, not compounding). That is, a 14m player with a 2-injury would be worth 15m with a 1-injury (to use an impossible but easy to understand math example); a 14m player with a 3-inj would be worth about 16m with a 1-inj.

I think going from 1-inj with 3 max to 1-inj or 0-inj with zero max (practically, anyone with 680 PA) would increase it by only a half or third as much -- 1/28th or 1/42nd, or thereabouts (the exact figure hardly matters). The fact is, a 1-inj with 3 max will miss only about 50 innings a year (on average over many seasons) even if started everyday and never removed deliberately. The zero-inj. thus gains only about 50 innings of value over 162 games playing every inning including extra innings.

For Escobar, the increase over his price would be maybe .04m to .06m -- not much.

EDIT: Had to clean this up to clarify that the equation was devised to be arithmetical ("simple" rate), relative to a 1-injury with a 15-game max.

Re: What in Sam Hill...?

PostPosted: Thu Mar 30, 2017 3:52 pm
by The Biomechanical Man
I sent a note to SOM and just got this response.
Thank you for this report. We have sent this over to the research team and to the programming team to see if there's a way to correct this in the 2016 set going forward.

Sincerely,
Strat-O-Matic Baseball 365
http://365.strat-o-matic.com

Re: What in Sam Hill...?

PostPosted: Fri Mar 31, 2017 1:36 pm
by Radagast Brown
They still have not fixed it.

Re: What in Sam Hill...?

PostPosted: Fri Mar 31, 2017 5:36 pm
by visick
Not for nothing guys but...

Is it really that big a deal?

Yes it's wrong.
Yes it needs to be fixed.

But it frickin Alcides Escobar guys... c'mon.